13 year old boy shot dead by police

u still cant see it wrote:

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.

Should have complied instantly and not run. Doesn’t mean he should be dead. But he wouldn’t be if he had complied from the outset.

yawn wrote:

u still cant see it wrote:

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.

Should have complied instantly and not run. Doesn’t mean he should be dead. But he wouldn’t be if he had complied from the outset.

Police should be trained to deal with "should haves" across the board. It's what they do and some don't do it well at all.

u still cant see it wrote:

yawn wrote:

Should have complied instantly and not run. Doesn’t mean he should be dead. But he wouldn’t be if he had complied from the outset.

Police should be trained to deal with "should haves" across the board. It's what they do and some don't do it well at all.

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

x hale wrote:

u still cant see it wrote:

Police should be trained to deal with "should haves" across the board. It's what they do and some don't do it well at all.

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

Chicago is a f'ing hole wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

1. Zero video evidence to show he had a gun earlier.

This is not the NCAA basketball tourney. The officer cannot call a timeout and go to the sidelines to check the super slow motion HD video from 18 different angles to determine the exact moment the gun left his hand like they check to see if a shot left a player's fingers 0.1 second before the clock strikes zero. But he definitely had it less than one second before the officer fired. Someone on TV said they determined this image is from 0.8 seconds prior to the shooting. Officer is not at fault at all.

https://i1.wp.com/noqreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/CBS-splices-gun-in-Adam-Toledos-hand-out-of-police-shooting-video.jpg?resize=750%2C375&ssl=1

Thanks for posting this.

The posters who are blasting the cop have obviously never attended an armed self-defense class. I have.

What they're missing is an understanding of human reaction time in a lethal scenario. This kid had the gun in his hand. He turned his right side away from the cop so the gun hand couldn't be seen and then started turning towards the cop and simultaneously started raising his hands. The cop did not know the gun had been dropped, but the suddenness of the movement forced a decision. The decision to shoot had to be made right then. Even so, as you can see in the video, the kid had enough time to raise his hand enough that, if he had held a gun, he could have fired before the cop fired.

Real example: In my armed self-defense class, the instructor had me put my (unloaded) handgun a foot away from his chest. He said, "When I make a move, you pull the trigger." Sure, I thought, how hard could this be? Instead, he disarmed me three consecutive times. That's human reaction time. He could grab the barrel with one hand and slap the gun out of my grip with the other before my brain could tell my finger to move one-quarter inch.

That's why the cop had to react when he did.

Meanwhile, where's the outrage in the media about a 13-year-old being out at 2:30am?

Das Unkle wrote:

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

The dregs are the criminals, they deal with millions each year.

x hale wrote:

u still cant see it wrote:

Police should be trained to deal with "should haves" across the board. It's what they do and some don't do it well at all.

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

Whether easy or not, the police need to be able to handle it. Some haven't been able to.

[quote]u still cant see it wrote:

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.[/quote

Do better. This has nothing to do with the Minnesota situation. Less than a second passed from the time he had a gun to the time he turned without one.

Das Unkle wrote:

x hale wrote:

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

Weak troll post. Everyone here knows a majority of those are good shootings.

agent p wrote:

[quote]u still cant see it wrote:

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.[/quote

Do better. This has nothing to do with the Minnesota situation. Less than a second passed from the time he had a gun to the time he turned without one.

The board hopes and knows you're not an agent.

x hale wrote:

u still cant see it wrote:

Police should be trained to deal with "should haves" across the board. It's what they do and some don't do it well at all.

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

agent p wrote:

[quote]u still cant see it wrote:

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.[/quote

Do better. This has nothing to do with the Minnesota situation. Less than a second passed from the time he had a gun to the time he turned without one.

It was a loooong time. By your logic, I don’t think we can trust cops to drive - can’t have them coasting through stop lights 1 second after it turns red.

mkayy wrote:

Odo of Cluny wrote:

<sarc>Yeah, about 1 second was plenty of time for the cop to realize that what this Uber-mature 13-year-old wielding a gun just did was no threat to the cop's life.</sarc>

It's amazing that the side that keeps whining about fake news is such a fan of hyperbole. Don't forget to mention the CITIES BURNED TO THE GROUND!

Your post is clear as mud.

Das Unkle wrote:

x hale wrote:

Well, I believe there are 91 cops killed in the line of work so far this year, they deal with the dregs of the earth. Not as easy as it seems.

At the same time, these criminals should realize they can increase their chances of living by not resisting. I guess that can't be expected of criminals though, can it?

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

Tell us what is the proper ratio of police to civilian/criminal deaths so that we, too, can evaluate who the dregs are.

The officer put his own "safety" ahead of this kids life. Wow. What a terrible human being. Hope he doesn't have kids because he is deadbeat dad/absent father personified.

As a liberal, I’m torn. On one hand I support defunding the police. On the other hand, I support gun control and think people that own guns deserve to die by guns.

x hale wrote:

Das Unkle wrote:

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

The dregs are the criminals, they deal with millions each year.

Yet in other nations cops kill very few people.

I guess America has the worst people on the planet. Weird since we are the greatest nation.

idek wrote:

Das Unkle wrote:

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

Tell us what is the proper ratio of police to civilian/criminal deaths so that we, too, can evaluate who the dregs are.

I dunno. Less than 22 to 1 maybe?

yawn wrote:

Das Unkle wrote:

Les than 50 cops are killed by civilians each year.

They kill @ 1,100 civilians each year.

Who are the dregs?

Weak troll post. Everyone here knows a majority of those are good shootings.

How does leather taste? 😂