Lance Armstrong son is in trouble

No surprise there.

But dad can make it go away with a nice settlement.

Lance never won anything wrote:

No surprise there.

But dad can make it go away with a nice settlement.

It's unlikely that sexual assault can be proven. He is on the hook for statutory rape, though.

The strangest thing about the article is that it concludes by saying that Lance won the 1993 world champs and 1996(?) La Fleche Wallonne, as if the latter rated in his cycling career.

His son was 18 with a girlfriend of 16 at the time and they'd been going out for months, so it falls under the Romeo and Juliet exception unless she was severely under the influence. Now, if you read the newish Malcolm Gladwell book, it indicates that 'blackouts' due to excessive alcohol may not impede functioning enough to be particularly noticeable, except that the person does not remember anything that happened during that time. The Stanford Brock Turner case was another one. In the latter, he was extremely drunk as well and the initial police report indicated that he could not remember what he had done during that time (his words, while later on he claimed to have known what was going on), so there both people apparently had 'blacked out.' In this case, it might turn out to be assault but it might also turn out that neither knew or that the girl was blacked out in the sense of having memory loss but functioning as if she was aware and that Armstrong's son didn't realize that. But that's all for the courts.

Shame on the media for releasing this so quickly. It's only news because of who his dad is. It's also important to keep the girl in mind, her privacy should be respected, as this is a very sensitive topic. Lets wait for facts and evidence before we all rush to judgement and criticism.

xczvzxcv wrote:

The strangest thing about the article is that it concludes by saying that Lance won the 1993 world champs and 1996(?) La Fleche Wallonne, as if the latter rated in his cycling career. .

Since Lance can no longer claim any TDF results as official victories, why is that strange?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

It's unlikely that sexual assault can be proven. He is on the hook for statutory rape, though.

Not necessarily but it could be an issue.

"The Texas Age of Consent is 17 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 16 or younger in Texas are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape.

Texas statutory rape law is violated when a person has consensual sexual intercourse with an individual under age 17. While there is no close in age exemption, defenses exist when the offender was no more than 3 years older then the victim and of the opposite sex. sexual intercourse between an employee of a school and a student is also prohibited, unless they are married, and no age of consent is specified in this law.

17 and 12 year old - OK

82 and 18 year old - OK

18 and 16 year old - Absolutely not OK

dunno wrote:

17 and 12 year old - OK

82 and 18 year old - OK

18 and 16 year old - Absolutely not OK

#1 and #3 are both incorrect. Reading comprehension!

Bike race-ial justice wrote:

xczvzxcv wrote:

The strangest thing about the article is that it concludes by saying that Lance won the 1993 world champs and 1996(?) La Fleche Wallonne, as if the latter rated in his cycling career. .

Since Lance can no longer claim any TDF results as official victories, why is that strange?

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

I know this one wrote:

Bike race-ial justice wrote:

Since Lance can no longer claim any TDF results as official victories, why is that strange?

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

The vast majority do not any more than they think Trump won the 2020 presidential election.

I know this one wrote:

Bike race-ial justice wrote:

Since Lance can no longer claim any TDF results as official victories, why is that strange?

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

And those same sane people recognize that Ben Johnson not only won a gold medal in the Olympics, but that his 1988 Gold medal 100m in 9.79 was one of the greatest athletic achievements ever up until that point in history. It was historic and ought to celebrated to this day, right along with Lance's 7 TDF victories.

I know this one wrote:

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

Lance didn't win the Tour de France.

Here is the proof.

Charged by USADA on 24 August 2012 of doping. Stripped of all his results and prizes from 1 August 1998. Armstrong elected to not appeal against the charges.

Lance never won anything wrote:

I know this one wrote:

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

Lance didn't win the Tour de France.

Here is the proof.

Charged by USADA on 24 August 2012 of doping. Stripped of all his results and prizes from 1 August 1998. Armstrong elected to not appeal against the charges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tour_de_France_general_classification_winners

Yeah and if we removed every single person from the tour for doping during that era. We would either have no winner or he would be near DFL. It was mostly political and the fact his former teammate snitched on him after he got busted is why those wins were stripped from him.

marathon workouts are long wrote:

Lance never won anything wrote:

Lance didn't win the Tour de France.

Here is the proof.

Charged by USADA on 24 August 2012 of doping. Stripped of all his results and prizes from 1 August 1998. Armstrong elected to not appeal against the charges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tour_de_France_general_classification_winners

Yeah and if we removed every single person from the tour for doping during that era. We would either have no winner or he would be near DFL. It was mostly political and the fact his former teammate snitched on him after he got busted is why those wins were stripped from him.

The everyone cheated excuse doesn't do much for me. He cheated. That he was arrogant and tried to destroy the lives of any accusers makes it worse.

For me, his wins don't exist. I was a huge fan of his, but after he got busted, I stopped caring about the TDF.

whilst i hate lance, and he never wo the tdf, i wouldnt wish this on any father.

Lance never won anything wrote:

I know this one wrote:

Because most sane people recognise the fact that he won the Tour de France 7 times.

Lance didn't win the Tour de France.

Here is the proof.

Charged by USADA on 24 August 2012 of doping. Stripped of all his results and prizes from 1 August 1998. Armstrong elected to not appeal against the charges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tour_de_France_general_classification_winners

Ooh look a pic of Miguel Indurain. He won five times, on the same stuff. But he gets to keep his victories and we mustn't question the hypocrisy.

proof or stfu

pupil3142 wrote:

proof or stfu

Seriously? You’re questioning whether a Spaniard that won the tour 5 times in one of the the dirtiest eras was a ped user?

pupil3142 wrote:

proof or stfu

I'm not judging either Armstrong or Indurain, but they and many others had Doc who prescribed stuff.

I'm saying that Lance won the Tour 7 times and real fans of the sport know it.