Yes, I noticed it too
Yes, I noticed it too
Strava is highly overrated and anyone's loyalty to their brand tells me more about them than anything.
Breakfast In Bed wrote:
Strava is highly overrated and anyone's loyalty to their brand tells me more about them than anything.
What does this mean?
why subpar wrote:
seth_da_runner wrote:
Strava is just a social media for runners and a subpar running log
Why is it a subpar running log? I use it more or less only as a log (without the social media aspects), and it works fine for me, certainly better than anything else I've tried.
Same here, its pretty decent. Just wish it wasn't quite so social media'ery, though that's the fault of the users not Strava. Fkkkking tools logging golfing days and 1 mile walks etc, shame i can't block activity types from my feed.
Jon Arne Glomsrud wrote:
hr stuff wrote:
As near as I can tell, the Strava metrics are deeply flawed for runs where your HR varies over the course of a run. For example, I suspect it would rate the first run as much harder than the second.
1) 20 minute tempo at HR 160.
2) 10 minute warmup up at HR 120. 20 minute tempo at HR 160. 10 minute cool down at HR 120.
Why? Because it averages about the HR and thinks you didn’t work hard on your second run.
Said differently, it seems to all be about the average HR and a period of easy running kills the average
I think you are wrong, it is not this simple. Take a look at their explanation. Of course they do not make stupid things, but there are limitations to how useful the metric is.
From Strava:
"Fitness
While fitness is a complicated concept, it can be simplified to an accumulation of training. The Fitness Score is calculated using Training Load and/or Relative Effort to measure your daily training, and an impulse-response model to quantify its effect over time. This will intuitively capture the development of fitness from training, as well as the loss of fitness during a break."
And:
"How It's Calculated
Our method for calculating Fitness, Fatigue, and Form is based off an impulse-response model first developed by Dr. Eric W. Banister in 1975. It was later applied to cycling by Dr. Andy Coggan.
The concepts apply to any measure of training stress. For example, the first models used average heart rate and time. We use Training Load and Relative Effort, computed using data collected from a power meter and heart rate monitor, respectively."
Maybe it’s not just HR, but it really seems that including a long easy period with a really hard workout downgrades the workout so that you don’t get credit for the hard part of the workout. It’s like the hard parts of the workout get watered down and forgotten in the averaged out metrics. It seems particularly noticeable with cycling.
Said differently, I think I would get more credit for option b than option a.
A) Easy ride to mountain, ride mountain hard, easy ride home. Record as one workout
B) same ride, but record as three separate activities.
Strava was never an example to me because I saw it as flawed. If we're talking about good fitness, then for me, there's a role model that's really worth a try.
If you are looking for a really effective workout, then you will find my advice quite interesting. I found one curious resource that told me all the body functions that does fitness and sports in general.
I think that this resource will be a valuable guide for you in the fitness world as well.
Breakfast In Bed wrote:
Strava is highly overrated and anyone's loyalty to their brand tells me more about them than anything.
+1
Garmin's VO2 Max is pretty stupid.
I actually tested my VO2 at UM over the summer and hit 80.1mL/kg yet Garmin says 74.
Just take these "toys" with a grain of salt.
Go to your university and do the real thing.
Honestly, I have realized that my fitness results have started to improve since I've purchased a smart body scale. I have realized how important it is to determine your body weight every morning. This can give you a good sense of what to train more and what edibles to avoid. Personally, I am really thinking of taking my fitness training to a new level, and I'm sure that with this scale and with my determination, I will be able to perform that. So guys, if some of you are training hard at the gym but doesn't see any result, I will advise you to purchase a new body scale.
Raphael Warnock Knock wrote:
, strava takes down your fitness.
Please explain what this means.
AndySmith wrote:
It massively over-values long runs vs intervals and races.
Run a PR over 10k? That will be 2 points less fit tomorrow.
Run 20x400 at 5k pace? Looks like you're getting kinda soft over there.
Run 20 miles with a heart rate of 130bpm? Woah! You're kinda a stud.
In terms of trends it's not entirely without its uses, but it's pretty dumb
Maybe Carlos Lopes was the developer. jk lol :)
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