Why did Cooper Teare and the Oregon milers race in their own section at Arkansas?

Probably because they're a lot faster than everyone else. If someone who had a 3:54 PR was in the race they probably would have been accepted into their heat as well. But since they were the top guys on paper already, it was an okay move to just keep them separated out in a smaller field so that they wouldn't have as much traffic to deal with. I'm glad they kept the other heat fairly small too with only 8 people in the field. More than that on an indoor track gets messy

Silly question. It was an invitational that required a specified time that only the Oregon guys had hit.

It was a collegiate record attempt and they didn’t want anyone else to screw up their pacing.

red5 wrote:

It was a collegiate record attempt and they didn’t want anyone else to screw up their pacing.

Fair enouch.

I guess he wasnt' scared of the competition in this case - but he should be.

It's a shame the NOtre Dame guys aren't doing indoor. Teare is a good runner but he's a time not a miler. He'd get smoked by Nuguse. Running 4 57.5 laps is good for time trials but hangs you out to dry for a 1500. His 800 pb is pedestrian.

If he's dreaming of the Olympics in 2020, it had better be in the 5000 or he'd better pay someone to rabbit out the 1500 Trials.

He and Hocker plan to switch off leading so that they can run a smooth 3:30. Everyone else will let them go and run for second.

Has Tamagno broken 4 yet? This has to be like the 6th or 7th time I've seen him run 4:0X.

3:41 which is good enough.

get why others would be annoyed by this, but why would oregon want their guys rabbiting for competitors and have someone not on the same page as them potentially messing things up?

The invitational mile was on friday, and regular mile was on Saturday. All the Oregon guys came back and ran the regular 800 on Saturday. I suspect Oregon simply requested the extra Friday mile, so their guys could post good qual. times for both mile and 800.

student of the sport wrote:

red5 wrote:

It was a collegiate record attempt and they didn’t want anyone else to screw up their pacing.

Fair enouch.

I guess he wasnt' scared of the competition in this case - but he should be.

It's a shame the NOtre Dame guys aren't doing indoor. Teare is a good runner but he's a time not a miler. He'd get smoked by Nuguse. Running 4 57.5 laps is good for time trials but hangs you out to dry for a 1500. His 800 pb is pedestrian.

If he's dreaming of the Olympics in 2020, it had better be in the 5000 or he'd better pay someone to rabbit out the 1500 Trials.

he ran 7 laps at 29-30 and the last one at 26

He looks like the best 1500 runner in the US right now.

student of the sport wrote:

red5 wrote:

It was a collegiate record attempt and they didn’t want anyone else to screw up their pacing.

Fair enouch.

I guess he wasnt' scared of the competition in this case - but he should be.

It's a shame the NOtre Dame guys aren't doing indoor. Teare is a good runner but he's a time not a miler. He'd get smoked by Nuguse. Running 4 57.5 laps is good for time trials but hangs you out to dry for a 1500. His 800 pb is pedestrian.

If he's dreaming of the Olympics in 2020, it had better be in the 5000 or he'd better pay someone to rabbit out the 1500 Trials.

Nuguse's 800m pb: 1:48.29

Teare's 800m pb: 1:49.29 ***keep in mind this was the day after running a goddamn 3:50 in the mile... they don't seem leagues apart to me...

aidid100 wrote:

get why others would be annoyed by this, but why would oregon want their guys rabbiting for competitors and have someone not on the same page as them potentially messing things up?

Umm, I think it's called racing?

Teare is better.

aidid100 wrote:

get why others would be annoyed by this, but why would oregon want their guys rabbiting for competitors and have someone not on the same page as them potentially messing things up?

Maybe because our sport is about racing.

Proud and American wrote:

He looks like the best 1500 runner in the US right now.

Hocker pretty much stayed right with him, he just started the kick in the trailing position. Maybe Teare could handle an even faster first 1200 of the mile better, I don't know.

student of the sport wrote:

red5 wrote:

It was a collegiate record attempt and they didn’t want anyone else to screw up their pacing.

Fair enouch.

I guess he wasnt' scared of the competition in this case - but he should be.

It's a shame the NOtre Dame guys aren't doing indoor. Teare is a good runner but he's a time not a miler. He'd get smoked by Nuguse. Running 4 57.5 laps is good for time trials but hangs you out to dry for a 1500. His 800 pb is pedestrian.

If he's dreaming of the Olympics in 2020, it had better be in the 5000 or he'd better pay someone to rabbit out the 1500 Trials.

He ran 1:49 and change after running a freaking 3:50 the day before. If he was fresh I guarantee that he can run 1:47.xx

His page on the Oregon website lists his pr as 4:01 for the mile, but 1500 is 3:41. Kind of sad seeing as he showed so much promise in high school.

jpurser1997 wrote:

His page on the Oregon website lists his pr as 4:01 for the mile, but 1500 is 3:41. Kind of sad seeing as he showed so much promise in high school.

Teare is right where people expected him to be. You don't expect every high school stud to become the best collegiate runner. People put too much expectations on them. In all honesty, we should be expecting high school studs to be above average. And looking at Cooper Teare, he's been well above average his entire college career. He was the Pac-12 XC freshman of the year in 2017; he was an honorable mention all-American in the 5k his freshman year; he ended up being 2nd at Pac-12 XC in 2019; he was like 6th or something at NCAA XC that year. He has multiple All-American honors by this point. Dude is good and has the honors and times to prove it. Just because you think every high school stud should win national titles doesn't mean he's a bust.

Also, we should point out that this 3:50 didn't necessarily come out of nowhere. Cooper ran a 3:55 split in their NCAA record DMR last year. And then a 3:54 split in their DMR just a couple weeks ago. It's really hard to run a fast mile leg for a DMR. By that point, the competition is usually too spread out to work off one another.

Once again, Teare is right where he should be and is doing extremely well. In two races a couple weeks ago, he straight up outclassed Kiptoo, who has been the most elite-looking college runner for well over the past year. Cooper's going to be getting those titles this year.