Do you believe the math in this article?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35152087/tesla-model-3-charging-costs-per-mile/
Do you believe the math in this article?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35152087/tesla-model-3-charging-costs-per-mile/
EVs now come in every shape and size. You certainly can get a tiny EV like the SmartCar EV. But you can also get a huge car like the Hummer EV. I'm not sure why you think it matters.
You do seem to tacitly acknowledge that EVs are superior in every way. The only exception is that it takes a little longer on very long trips. I understand that you are hesitant to try something new. Before I bought my EV in 2017, I was thinking that it might not be good for long road trips. So I figured if that was the case we would just take our hybrid. But we have never done so.
Our EV will hit 100,000 miles tomorrow. Needless to say, we very much prefer the EV on long trips even if it takes a little longer. Until you experience the peace and quiet of an EV you don't realize how frazzled you get listening to the droning sound of an engine for hours and hours and hours.
If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
patriotic Americans reject democrats wrote:
Patriotic Americans will never abandon gasoline vehicles for wimpy clown car EVs.
Not gonna do it.
You can’t make us.
Patriotic Americans will reject democrat evils.
Democrats lose again!!!
It is your right as an American to use inferior technology if that's what you want. Nobody will force you to switch. In fact, you can still legally drive your horse and buggy on almost all US roads, except interstates.
You don't have to be afraid. Nobody is coming for your guns. Nobody is coming for your truck. It will all be OK.
Help me to understand? wrote:
Do you believe the math in this article?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35152087/tesla-model-3-charging-costs-per-mile/
The article is good, but I do question the math. It looks way, way off.
I don't see where the EPA gets an estimate of 1 gallon = 33.7 kWh.
A Tesla Model 3 gets roughly 4 miles per kWh. So it will go about 135 miles on 33.7kWh. I don't know of any car that can go 135 miles on 1 gallon of gas.
Even running at 70mph, this auto analyst got 4.25 miles per kWh:
https://insideevs.com/reviews/428113/tesla-model-3-highway-range-test-70mph/So if you do the math with 4.25 miles per kWh on a Supercharger that charges $0.26 per kWh, you get a cost per mile of about 6 cents. And as the article notes, if you charge at home your rates a lot, lot cheaper and you save a ton of money versus buying gas.
As I've said before, I save about $2000 per year buying electricity instead of gasoline.
record number of vaccinations today, a weekend: 2.4 million
7 day average also at new high: 1.735 million, and that includes two very bad vaccination days.
7 day average should be over 2 million/day this week.
the questions are
1) when states move to the next age group down
2) How the surge in vaccine deployment is handled, logistically
3) Can enough jabbers be found, once they open this up to the next age group.
That sure does sound like a lot of planning to take a trip. Lol With my gas hog all I do is load up my stuff and go. I don’t have to plan where to eat or gas up. Don’t have to stop to find a location with a charger and then wait 2 or more hours to charge. That is if the charger isn’t already taken or broken. I can gas up in 5 minutes not 2 hours and get food to go. I’d much rather spend that time at my destination rather than sitting at a charging station in the back of some parking lot or spending time driving off route looking for a working unoccupied charger. I don’t have to plan my stay to make sure I have access to a charger. What a hassle. Things will be better in a few years but EVs aren’t ready for prime time yet. They will be one day. Now it is very inconvenient to have one and very frustrating.
Fat hurts wrote:
As I've said before, I save about $2000 per year buying electricity instead of gasoline.
At $2.50 per gallon a fillup costs me $32 I can drive about 2.5 weeks on a tank. That's about 21 tanks of gas per year. Let's round up to 30 because sometimes I take a trip. Still, I'm spending less than $1000 per year on gas. My car is a used Hyundai Kona that I paid $13,000 for last year. It can get 40mpg in highway use.
You must drive a lot to be saving $2k in gas. What EV do you have?
Biden thread pulse check, day 39, 47 pages... edges back above 1.2 pages per day
but will it survive Trump's big speech today? Has a Biden speech gotten as many views? Has Joe even said anything recently or has this thread merely morphed into the gas-vs-EV thread?
Trips used to take a lot of planning, but not any more. If you are in a Tesla you can just jump in the car and tell it where you want to go. It will plan all your stops for you and even reroute you to a different supercharger site in the rare event that chargers are crowded.
For other EVs, the planning tools have gotten really sophisticated. Sites like plugshare.com and abetterrouteplanner.com do essentially the same thing as Tesla but it's not integrated into the car.
I don't know where you get 2 hour stops. Even in a Bolt you never have to charge more than 1 hour. Typical stops are less than 20 minutes.
But sure, if you can't deal with the fact that long trips take a little bit longer in an EV then don't buy one.
However, if you buy a gas car you are still an idiot because you'll be wasting time at the smelly gas station every week, and just generally driving an inferior car that will cost you thousands more each year.
Sounds like quite a hassle. Lol. I just jump in my gas car and go. Don’t have to take detours to get charged up for a couple hours. Checking websites to find somewhere to charge? Don’t need that. Just go. Ooof. Very inconvenient. I’d rather spend that extra time at my destination sipping drinks on the beach not spending that precious time waiting for the bozo in front of me to finish charging and then having to wait another couple of hours charging mine. EVs aren’t quite ready yet. The hassle factor and frustration factor are still too high. In a few years it will be better. Battery prices will drop and get better. But now it is so inconvenient and frustrating to have an EV.
You'll be spending time on the side of the road broken down while I'm the one sipping drinks.
Say hi to the mechanic for me. I won't be seeing him any more because I drive an EV.
IronWolf wrote:
Ouch!
https://rumble.com/ve9eyl-shocking-video-comparison-of-trump-vs-biden.html
Here’s a real unedited OUCHIE ? ?
https://images.app.goo.gl/DNn36uut6LfQWykY6ENJOY YOUR LOSS ??
Bad Wigins wrote:
Biden thread pulse check, day 39, 47 pages... edges back above 1.2 pages per day
but will it survive Trump's big speech today? Has a Biden speech gotten as many views? Has Joe even said anything recently or has this thread merely morphed into the gas-vs-EV thread?
You LOST the White House
You LOST the House
You LOST the Senate
You LOST the lawsuits to overturn the Democratic will of the American people
You LOST your insurrection after about two hours, surrendering easily
You EMBARRASSED yourself with your comical 2,600 prediction
Yet here you are doing victory laps because the traffic on your Presidents thread on a running forum is a little slow.
2,600 guy - ENJOY your great victory ??
Wrong. Only massive election fraud allowed the communists Democrats to install Biden. That potato doesn’t know if he ate his pudding this morning.
https://mobile.twitter.com/APhilosophae/status/1329057229543256064
IronWolf wrote:
Wrong. Only massive election fraud allowed the communists Democrats to install Biden. That potato doesn’t know if he ate his pudding this morning.
https://mobile.twitter.com/APhilosophae/status/1329057229543256064
And yet Trump and his team couldn’t prove election fraud to judges he appointed ?
That’s bleak ?
Good luck March 4th, pin your hopes on that.
That reminds me of the countless times I’ve heard of people forgetting to charge their EV at home overnight and waking up with no juice. Then having to wait endless hours with an at home charger. So frustrating. Cant just pour a bit of gas from the lawnmower can in or get a buddy to run to the gas station. Got to wait it out for that inconvenient charge. That’s the case if you are lucky enough to live somewhere that you can charge at home. If not you’ve got to do a lot of planning for charging. Most EV owners today are at the mercy of sparse often broken public chargers. Don’t get me started on those. Lol. If you have a lot of extra time and don’t mind being inconvenienced then the EVs of today might be okay for you. I couldn’t imagine how frustrated people are who have had this problem and worse for several years. If you dont want to be frustrated or very inconvenienced then wait until EVs are ready for prime time. They’ll get there in a few years but are nowhere ready yet.
You are lying. Nobody wakes up with no juice at all. Never happens.
However, on a really cold day, your oil turns to sludge and your battery is drained. Can't start the car.
This never happens in an EV.
jumbo shrimp wrote:
That reminds me of the countless times I’ve heard of people forgetting to charge their EV at home overnight and waking up with no juice. . .
If you could clarify, which of these is the most accurate interpretation of your statement?
A) You know countless people who have forgotten to charge their EV at home one or more times. This would seem to contradict your assertions about EVs not being popular.
B) You know a small number of people who have forgotten to charge their EV at home countless times. This would suggest your circle of friends are idiots.
C) You know a very small number of people who repeat the same story about forgetting to charge their EV at home countless times.
D) You're fabricating the narrative.