Biden announces 1st day order of business. Allow biological males in women's sports

Tatar wrote:

shifty principles wrote:

Ok ladies, we need you all to subjugate your own right to fair competition, but it’s for the greater good of letting biological males live out the fantasy that they are actually women. This is progress!

The argument seems to be women will suffer if trans women compete. The argument is flawed because it's in the girl's interest to tackle sexism and accepting trans people does that. What is gained is taken away with the other hand if you allow biological deterministic absolutes. This isn't asking anyone to "take one for the team" or "the greater good" it's just arguing her rights are tied up with the same rights of others.

Ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous.

ocin3125 wrote:

I understand this is a mainly liberal website right? Well here you go liberals!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/joe-biden-day-1-order-on-transgender-rights-in-sports-and-bathrooms/

Just get rid of gender categories in sports. Combine all sports leagues, professional & college, and Olympic events and just have the best athletes compete against each other regardless of gender.

I mean it’ll kind of suck for women college athletes especially who will no longer be getting athletic scholarships and will probably relegated to D3 athletics (if they are really good in high school that is) but that’s their problem.

Disgusted wrote:

Tatar wrote:

The argument seems to be women will suffer if trans women compete. The argument is flawed because it's in the girl's interest to tackle sexism and accepting trans people does that. What is gained is taken away with the other hand if you allow biological deterministic absolutes. This isn't asking anyone to "take one for the team" or "the greater good" it's just arguing her rights are tied up with the same rights of others.

Biological deterministic absolutes? Did you come up with that phrase on your own? Anyway, you have convinced me. Biology be damned! That sh*t was never really science in the first place. The absolute best way to protect a girl's interests in sports is, without a doubt, for her to lose every race to a man.

Dear daughter, I know you're frustrated that you just lost the girl's championship to a boy, but think about the bigger picture: by getting your azz whooped by a man in an event ostensibly for women, you are contributing to ***checks notes*** making the world a fairer place for women.

LOL. The logical contortions required to believe this stuff are insane.

Liberals traded in someone with bad rhetoric, bad character, and good policies for someone with good rhetoric, bad character, and bad policies. For some reason they are still unable to understand that out of the 3, bad policies are the only thing that have an impact on them and the country. Ironically Biden has had bad policies his entire political career and they still can't see it.

This website liberal? HAHAHAHAHA

well actually wrote:

Liberals traded in someone with bad rhetoric, bad character, and good policies for someone with good rhetoric, bad character, and bad policies. For some reason they are still unable to understand that out of the 3, bad policies are the only thing that have an impact on them and the country. Ironically Biden has had bad policies his entire political career and they still can't see it.

I wouldn't say that. Why do you feel they are bad. They help the middle class and lower classes in general and he doesn't lie to them like what ws done the last 4 years.

well actually wrote:

Liberals traded in someone with bad rhetoric, bad character, and good policies for someone with good rhetoric, bad character, and bad policies. For some reason they are still unable to understand that out of the 3, bad policies are the only thing that have an impact on them and the country. Ironically Biden has had bad policies his entire political career and they still can't see it.

Any rhetoric that emerges from Joe Biden was placed in his head earlier in the day by someone else. He won't be around for long.

CopperRunner wrote:

*Puts on lipstick menacingly*

Ah finally, the 800m WR is mine!

Lol

F**k it. I’m competing as a girl now. World records here I come!

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go r wrote:

If we get rid of definitions, BLM does not exist.

'Black' isn't rigidly defined. Neither should 'woman'

Biological sex should be defined.

Woman is an adult female. Female is:

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Tatar wrote:

'Black' isn't rigidly defined. Neither should 'woman'

Biological sex should be defined.

Woman is an adult female. Female is:

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Look at you, throwing around biological deterministic absolutes like a boss!

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Biden won't have the power to do any such thing. Each state determines who is eligible to compete for HS and the NCAA and USTAF for college and pro.

Well that is something the courts are going to decide. There are cases surrounding this right now.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

supreme advantage wrote:

This something hopefully the supreme court can now take care of, hopefully somebody is on top this and will get a challenge there quickly.

I dont want to see my daughter losing a major title to a male. If I am being honest its really the reason I voted Trump, hate to be a single issue voter but high level sports have been great to my daughters its a shame so many want to end high level womens sports.

So how long will it take for the Connecticut girl's case to work it's way up to the Supreme Court? Sorry, but a HS girl being bumped from 6th to 8th, isn't going to fire up too many judges.

The POTUS has nothing to do with the issue and the chances of your daughter even competing against transgender athlete is statistically zero.

It will take years to reach SCOTUS if it decides to take the case.

Under Obama the Dept of Ed had issued a ruling to allow it.

Luv2Run wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Biden won't have the power to do any such thing. Each state determines who is eligible to compete for HS and the NCAA and USTAF for college and pro.

Well that is something the courts are going to decide. There are cases surrounding this right now.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/13/transgender-athletes-girls-sports-high-school

These cases are really just stunts and will never go anywhere. There won't be a real case to be made until there has been significant success at the top professional levels by transgender athletes. Until then, courts aren't going to be willing to litigate a theory.

Another problem for those wanting a ban is that it needs to start at the top, meaning the IOC. The USATF telling transgender athletes, "Yeah, we know you're allowed to run in the Olympics, but not for the U.S." is not a good story.

You never know where one of Dr. Evil's assassins will show up.

I'm all in favor of transgender athletes. I just don't think they belong in women's sports, where they are clearly putting cisgendered women at an unfair disadvantage. Give them their own division. Better yet, make diversity real by putting them in a division with intersex athletes. There's absolutely no reason to insist on cramming every human into one of two divisions, even as you're advocating for a wide range of intersectional identities. That's a flagrant logical inconsistency.

KudzuRunner wrote:

That's a flagrant logical inconsistency.

Virtually the entire Democratic Platform. Lunacy, in reality.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

comedyre1i3f wrote:

There is no gender, only all. No gender based language, no gender division in sports, RRs, no more OBGYNs, no more male health clinics. If we legislate that there are no differences between the genders, then it must be so. Science be damned.

Many people believe that it doesn't even the playing field, but there needs to be a significant amount of actual race data to challenge the status quo.

Good, Lord. In other words, this needs to be unreasonably COMPLETELY forced upon a reasonable public so at that point, its too late to turn back.

KudzuRunner wrote:. Better yet, make diversity real by putting them in a division with intersex athletes. There's absolutely no reason to insist on cramming every human into one of two divisions, even as you're advocating for a wide range of intersectional identities. That's a flagrant logical inconsistency.

This solution wouldn’t satisfy the wokes (“you’re othering us”), and also logistically there aren’t enough trans/intersex runners at high school and college levels to create divisions with more than one or two athletes.

The simplest solution would be to say sports are segregated by sex, not gender. It solves the problem using the language of the woke.