El Guerrouj 2k WR - Incredible 3:49 Mile pace

Another gem:

"the enhanced V˙O2,peak with RhEPO treatment should be beneficial to exercise tolerance, since any absolute work rate would require a lower fraction of the new V˙O2,peak."

Move the physiological goalposts.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

It's called empirical evidence, Gary.

Ah thanks -- we can show by empirical evidence that Armstronglivs is not able to support what he says and believes.

I say and I believe that you are a witless doping apologist, who makes Rudy Giuliani look like a paragon of fact, truth and logic. You are the empirical evidence.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Ah thanks -- we can show by empirical evidence that Armstronglivs is not able to support what he says and believes.

He did. There's a video of El G demonstrating.

From the video, we can give a non-expert impression of El G's breathing.

Can you narrow down the times in the video when we can see 1) the extra RBCs carrying more oxygen from the lung to the muscles, 2) the EPO, and 3) the oxygen concentration of each inhalation and exhalation, and 4) references to put these all in perspective (i.e. concluding "more" or "less")?

Thanks in advance.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Ah thanks -- we can show by empirical evidence that Armstronglivs is not able to support what he says and believes.

I say and I believe that you are a witless doping apologist, who makes Rudy Giuliani look like a paragon of fact, truth and logic. You are the empirical evidence.

Given your long history of non-expert conclusions lacking basis, your long history of fractured comprehension, and your penchant for bizarre analogies, you are still responding quite predictably, with judgments of no value, all the while, evading what it would take to participate in intelligent discourse.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

He did. There's a video of El G demonstrating.

From the video, we can give a non-expert impression of El G's breathing.

Can you narrow down the times in the video when we can see 1) the extra RBCs carrying more oxygen from the lung to the muscles, 2) the EPO, and 3) the oxygen concentration of each inhalation and exhalation, and 4) references to put these all in perspective (i.e. concluding "more" or "less")?

Thanks in advance.

The time of 4.44. As usual, the rest of your questions are irrelevant.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I say and I believe that you are a witless doping apologist, who makes Rudy Giuliani look like a paragon of fact, truth and logic. You are the empirical evidence.

Given your long history of non-expert conclusions lacking basis, your long history of fractured comprehension, and your penchant for bizarre analogies, you are still responding quite predictably, with judgments of no value, all the while, evading what it would take to participate in intelligent discourse.

If you aren't the empirical evidence for my observations about you it throws into doubt your very existence. I have entertained those doubts, as you have never seemed convincingly human. More like a programme - but one that is in serious need of a reboot. "Intelligent discourse" isn't part of your programming.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

He did. There's a video of El G demonstrating.

From the video, we can give a non-expert impression of El G's breathing.

Can you narrow down the times in the video when we can see 1) the extra RBCs carrying more oxygen from the lung to the muscles, 2) the EPO, and 3) the oxygen concentration of each inhalation and exhalation, and 4) references to put these all in perspective (i.e. concluding "more" or "less")?

Thanks in advance.

We can give an expert impression too.

You can narrow it down to the 4:44 or look at the minutes after for even more telling evidence.

A heat sensor pointed at him apparently glowed in this race. True story.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

From the video, we can give a non-expert impression of El G's breathing.

Can you narrow down the times in the video when we can see 1) the extra RBCs carrying more oxygen from the lung to the muscles, 2) the EPO, and 3) the oxygen concentration of each inhalation and exhalation, and 4) references to put these all in perspective (i.e. concluding "more" or "less")?

Thanks in advance.

The time of 4.44. As usual, the rest of your questions are irrelevant.

Oh right - that makes sense that your statements about RBCs and EPO and more oxygen being baseless, even lacking empirical evidence, would render any questions about them also irrelevant.

Not any questions. Just the ones you like to raise. And Jon's.

Shopping hour wrote:

We can give an expert impression too.

You can narrow it down to the 4:44 or look at the minutes after for even more telling evidence.

A heat sensor pointed at him apparently glowed in this race. True story.

You just need the expert.

Shopping hour wrote:

Not any questions. Just the ones you like to raise. And Jon's.

Yes -- upon advice I've already dismissed all of the statements about RBCs and EPO and any alleged connection to breathing.

But not expert advice.

Shopping hour wrote:

But not expert advice.

100% agree -- it was Armstronglivs who told me these topics were irrelevant, so I agreed with his confirmation and dismissed them as irrelevant.

So you're saying he's an expert?

Shopping hour wrote:

So you're saying he's an expert?

You seem to be easily confused.

What I said was I agreed with you when you said it was not expert advice.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

So you're saying he's an expert?

You seem to be easily confused.

What I said was I agreed with you when you said it was not expert advice.

As do you. Wouldn't you want expert advice? Am I an expert now?

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

You seem to be easily confused.

What I said was I agreed with you when you said it was not expert advice.

As do you. Wouldn't you want expert advice? Am I an expert now?

I would want expert advice on things that are relevant.

Or alternatively, an expert to establish or show the relevance.

Until then ...

rekrunner wrote:

Until then ...

You will stick to trolling hard.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Until then ...

You will stick to trolling hard.

You must be tired of all the winning. He, on the other hand, never tires of losing.