San Francisco to rename ABRAHAM LINCOLN High School ...

george c wrote:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

That is so bogus... Just look how many military bases and state parks are there. CA is gifted huge amounts based on these federal sites just on payroll taxes alone. Not to mention the economic impact of having hundreds of military cities contributing to your tax base.

That article is so flawed.

Lol did you just put "military" and "contribute" in the same sentence?

bangdingow wrote:

gdm wrote:

Naming schools after politicians (or even people, now that I think of it) is dumb anyways. 60% of voters voted AGAINST Lincoln!

I agree. I'd like to see every school around the country renamed in the manner of the schools in NYC. PS1, PS2, PS3 and so on. "Go PS238! We're #1 - uhh #238!"

Yea, but then people complain and debate about the number, and there would be issues about certain numbers being used. Like PS69. I see lots of problems here. Immature kids and the number 69? What about PS666? The number of the beast. Or PS420? Hitler’s birthday and its association with marijuana. PS1? Who gets that designation? What if it’s a majority white school? Why are they #1?

And would the schools all be confined to using whole numbers? Can a school be PS11.5? How about math numbers i and e? Psi? PSe? Or better yet pi. That’s PS3.14159265358979323846264338327950…. or abbreviated as PSpi since the public school number would be too large for uniforms, marquees, etc. And where do you cut off the number at? Then there is PS2. In numerology one of the meanings of two is femininity. I see lots of problems here. I’m not sure if masculinity is associated with a number, but if so then we would have an even bigger problem.

Whatever the number(s), they can be associated with numerology meanings, angel numbers, Biblical numbers, chemical codes, police and penal codes (imagine 187), spiritual meanings, and online “slang” numbers. Regarding the latter, 404 means clueless or unable to find. 807 means extreme lack of common sense or knowledge. When PS 404 plays PS 807, I guess both teams are losers. So this whole idea of schools by number is a bad idea.

Ben Dover wrote:

That is so bogus... Just look how many military bases and state parks are there. CA is gifted huge amounts based on these federal sites just on payroll taxes alone. Not to mention the economic impact of having hundreds of military cities contributing to your tax base.

That article is so flawed.

That sounds about right! "If I don't like what something says I will call it bogus............after all, my head-in-my-a$$ opinion means far more than facts." I wonder where you learned that strategy? Search it & choose your basis of facts. California gets about 75 cents back on each dollar that they provide in federal taxes no matter what the source of them receiving federal money. By the way STATE parks are funded by the states. They would be far better off in repsect to taxes to secede and quit propping up Alabama, South Carolina, and the other red tax gobbling states.

only elementary and middle schools are numbered in NYC

He must have been racist or my white priviledge is blinding me.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

Clearly no one has ever been so virtuous or above the human flaws that have existed since the dawn of man until the millennial generation. Thank you to the American education system for moving these individuals to such an enlightened plane of existence.

Spot On!!!

"You're special"

"You're the best"

"Everyone is a winner and gets a trophy"

"We don't keep score, that would create unwanted competition and exclude those who aren't talented"

"You don't need to work hard, we're all in this together and we'll share our successes while at the same time creating a happy, free, and loving utopia".

Makes me sick!!!!!!

"Go Run One"

Ben Dover wrote:

george c wrote:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

That is so bogus... Just look how many military bases and state parks are there. CA is gifted huge amounts based on these federal sites just on payroll taxes alone. Not to mention the economic impact of having hundreds of military cities contributing to your tax base.

That article is so flawed.

Also anyone claiming the federal government does not favor California as much as red states on a tax dollar basis does not understand the full economic picture. California and New York disproportionately benefit from the Federal governments monetary policy. This has created these tech bubbles and wall street asset bubbles that benefit these states hugely. The way the Federal government has rigged the banking industry favors the large New York banks. There are far more clever ways to rig the economy than simply tax dollars in and tax dollars out.

Whether at an individual or state level the federal government gives just enough to satisfy the masses while rigging things so more and more wealth ends up in the 1%.

The Unkle wrote:

Makes sense really.

In fact, Abraham Lincoln is not seen as much of a hero at all among many American Indian tribes and Native peoples of the United States, as the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental.....blah blah blah.

No one cares. The indians tried and they lost. Winners don’t kowtow to losers. Do we really care about what Krauts and Japs think? They lost WW2. Do you think Vietnam cares about what the US or French the think? Heck no. Vietnam won. For that matter no one cares what the french think cause they always lose and need the US to come in and save their sorry butts.

Winners do what they want. Losers get devastated and have no home to go to because we burned it down like Sherman’s devastation of the south.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

Also anyone claiming the federal government does not favor California as much as red states on a tax dollar basis does not understand the full economic picture. California and New York disproportionately benefit from the Federal governments monetary policy. This has created these tech bubbles and wall street asset bubbles that benefit these states hugely. The way the Federal government has rigged the banking industry favors the large New York banks. There are far more clever ways to rig the economy than simply tax dollars in and tax dollars out.

Whether at an individual or state level the federal government gives just enough to satisfy the masses while rigging things so more and more wealth ends up in the 1%.

The fact remains that California gets far less from federal taxes than they pay in, so seceding would not be the massive fall some people think. Obviously no one is going to secede so it is a hypothetical question anyway.

Your quote: Whether at an individual or state level the federal government gives just enough to satisfy the masses while rigging things so more and more wealth ends up in the 1%. could not be truer.

I proposed (either here or somewhere else) that every statue torn down during the 'summer of love' should have been replaced by one of Trump. This school should be the "45th president Donald J. Trump school"

Not only did he lead a fight against slave states (reluctant in the beginning), but most historians consider him our greatest President. Don't they teach history anymore?

If they taught history, perhaps this thread wouldn’t have happened because Abraham Lincoln High School never got renamed. But go on and agitate more about hypothetical things.

It never got renamed BECAUSE OF this thread. Letsrun does it again!!

It was not renamed because three school board members lost a recall election. The school renaming was one of the issues that led to their recall.

californiaglobe.com

San Francisco School Board Begins Reversing Policies Made By Pre-Recall Board

Evan Symon

During a San Francisco Unified School District Board of Education meeting on Wednesday, the board decided to reverse several policies made in 2020 and

Link:californiaglobe.com/articles/san-franc...

Let's Run is not known for deep thoughtful analysis is this thread is a prime example. Yes, San Francisco is a liberal city and has its share of problems, some caused by poor leadership. But the reality is that despite being liberal there are so many people there who are fed up with rising crime, homelessness, educational issues, etc., just like anywhere else. For people elsewhere to j say things like they (or the entire state, for that matter) should just secede is beyond moronic. I would love for some of these posters to identify their city and/or state. We would all have a field day razzing them for their hometown problems.

Which demonstrates a great point that letsrun posters miss because they get fed their opinions by right-wing media:

There are lunatics on both sides. However, lunatics are a fringe group with no power on the left (i.e. getting recalled in SF) but on the right they dominate the party.

The very fact that it was seriously considered implies a lack of perspective on the American Experiment in self governance. Why is every simple statement here tinged with angry bitterness?