How many of you on LetsRun believe in Aliens?

Internetsherlock wrote:

I am talking about Alien space ships, alien abductions and all of that.

I don't see how anyone can doubt the existence of aliens after the Utah monolith incident. We finally have physical proof.

That aliens exist? Yeah, absolutely believe that.

That aliens constantly visit us? No. Find that hard to believe. They’d send ‘drones’ across those vast distances, wouldn’t come here themselves. Haven’t seen any actual solid proof.

Dwightarm wrote:

That aliens exist? Yeah, absolutely believe that.

That aliens constantly visit us? No. Find that hard to believe. They’d send ‘drones’ across those vast distances, wouldn’t come here themselves. Haven’t seen any actual solid proof.

Why is that hard to believe? An article today about short-term space exposure changing mitochondria in humans. Its hard to believe an alien species is susceptible to radiation and thus sends drones to do it's research?

Have you ever heard of Voyager, Voyager-2, New Horizons, etc. etc. etc.?

My family members are not nut jobs (one was the President of a major US aerospace firm) and several of us have seen things that may have been either alien spacecraft or experimental military aircraft not yet publicly known. So I'm intrigued, but not convinced. At the age of 40, I myself finally saw something that may have been. This object didn't move in ways that our aircraft do. I just couldn't think of any explanation for its movement except something totally unknown to me.

Your family isn’t crazy. What is happening is essentially a “carve-out” program, where defense industry partners like Lockheed and Boeing assume responsibility for the entirety of programs and get funneled vast sums of money. This is done to avoid FOIAs or Congresssional Oversight, which are present in today’s SAPs (Black Programs).

Here’s an interesting article on the latter subject:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29092/special-access-programs-and-the-pentagons-ecosystem-of-secrecy

If not for the UFO that crashed in Roswell, we would not have figured out the semiconductor transistor, and you'd be posting this from a giant vacuum-tube computer the size of your house. How do alien deniers explain that one?

I look at it more as "do other life forms exist beyond ours" rather than Aliens, ships, abductions etc

I mean given we really have no idea what the true limits of space are, it simply has to be impossible to discount. It would be an incredibly arrogant (and typical) homosapien perspective to proclaim we are the only lifeform that exists anywhere in any galaxy/universe. Sure the events that came together to create our planet and evolve us to where we are today maybe extremely complex but it's not implausible they happened in a similar fashion given the infinite expanse of space.

We just will never know - maybe there are civilzations out there that are still in formative stages that we were in centuries ago. Maybe some that are centuries advanced? You just can't say that's impossible.

As for space ships and intergalactic travel etc? I'm not as convinced. The laws of physics and obvious logistical difficulties with travelling into space still exist no matter what. As a human race we probably face more issues on an emotional intelligence side than we do on a practical intelligence side. I still don't believe it's easy to just cruise around different galaxies and solar systems looking for people to abduct no matter how intelligent or technologically advanced you are. By this I mean other life forms may have also done what we have and maybe on a slightly different scale (like travel 100'000+ miles to other planets) but I still think the Star Trek/Star Wars/Intergallactica concept in reality takes me to the edge of plausibility.

I know they are real. They just took the monolith from the desert away.

That should be proof enough.

My uncle was with the group who stuck it there and removed it. He said it only weighs 40 pounds.

WE are aliens who aren't originally from here, so yes.

If you dont believe in alien life then you dont understand statistics very well and/or how big the universe is. Shoot, we may have just discovered alien life on the planet closest to us which itself is the closest approximation to an unsurvivable hell as anything else out there. If there is alien life on Venus then life is ubiquitous to the universe. It is absolutely everywhere. And once the James Webb finally gets up there we will be able to detect bio signatures in exo planets in our own galaxy.

But I assume your question is about History Channel nut job alien nonsense. I find that a lot less interesting. Intelligent alien life certainly exists and has existed. Again statistics. The problem is the universe is so big its hard to stumble onto them. Ancient long dead civilizations will likely be the first things we discover just because they will have had the time to do things that will be more easily noticed then infant technological civilizations like our own that has just now started broadcasting radio waves and I Love Lucy and whatnot into space.

We're all being attacked by aliens from our own world. Who needs them from outer space.

Jed is dumb wrote:

My uncle was with the group who stuck it there and removed it. He said it only weighs 40 pounds.

So your uncle is from Mars too?

That's cool.

I. Rex wrote:

If you dont believe in alien life then you dont understand statistics very well and/or how big the universe is...

This ^ is absolute nonsense.

Show me your simpleton logic that leads to alien life. Here, let me guess, you'll start with the Drake Equation.

Go for it! I can't wait to see your unbelievably naive nonsense.

Since the cosmos is vast with billions and billions of galaxies, it's most likely that somewhere out there life exists. But how different is it? Is it carbon-based?

If life exists anywhere near earth, let's say, our galaxy, odds are that that alien life is either millions of years ahead of life on earth or millions of years behind it. That's what was always so funny about the thought of UFOs in the 1960s and 70s, it was conceptualized as mechanical saucer space ships as perceived in that time period.

I so seriously doubt that any alien life has ever been in contact with earth anywhere that it's laughable.

And fwiw, I think the origins and existence of life on earth is one of the greatest scientific mysteries. That somehow someway, sterile inanimate compounds combined to form replicating animate life with self-consciousness. That to me is beyond explanation with current scientific knowledge.

It requires more assumptions to suppose life exists only here than to suppose it exists everywhere. For it to exist everywhere, you merely need to explain how it started. For it to exist only here, you have to explain how it started AND why that was unique to Earth. Nothing so unique about Earth has been discovered yet. On the contrary, there's lots of other equivalent planets out there.

So, with no empirical evidence one way or the other, we still are better off working with the theory that there are aliens, than the one that there aren't.

If there are intelligent aliens, even technologically advanced, we shouldn't assume any amount of technology would allow them to live long enough, or travel fast enough, to explore the galaxy.

And if they do live that long or travel that fast, we still shouldn't assume they would notice Earth, because of the aforementioned abundance of other Earths already out there. This would be like the ants on a tree in a forest expecting a human to notice that tree, when in fact many trees are never noticed.

If they do notice Earth, we still shouldn't assume they'd be interested, any more than you are interested in going into the forest to see that ant-tree I was talking about.

Bad Wigins wrote:

If they do notice Earth, we still shouldn't assume they'd be interested, any more than you are interested in going into the forest to see that ant-tree I was talking about.

Quick question: Are they bullet ants?

Life exist. As many have stated it’s simply so large it’s mathematically almost certain.

Also, simple physics... space is so large we will never know. It takes 6-8 months to go to Mars. 36 years to reach interstellar space. 4.5 million light years to reach the nearest exoplanet.

Considering there is no air, food, water, let alone fuel to complete such a trip we will never know. Our species will be long extinct and our solar system consumed by the aging sun long before any space signals from earth would ever reach another planet.