CNN silent as nurse’s viral tale of patients denying coronavirus from deathbeds falls apart.

el hombre wrote:

So just to be clear, a couple of people at Fox have called an unmentioned number of nurses at hospitals in the same general area and haven’t heard the same thing. That’s the story falling apart, is that other nurses (at least the ones that Fox News talked to) didn’t have the same experience. I don’t know what CNN would even respond to there.

Wired did a better job debunking this.

A journalist or news organization is inevitably going to get burned from time to time. Happens to the best of them. But yes, they should definitely be up front about it when they realize that they had been had.

It's not just opinion, the MSM is an an absolute propaganda machine for the Globalist elites, and the MSM is only one branch of this machine. There's the Big Tech media platforms - Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram - all on full censorship/propaganda duties (which are all owned by some of the richest men in the world - BTW keep your eyes on the Jack Dorsey Twitter censorship case going on in the Senate Judicial Committee right now). Then you have the Sports and Entertainment industry, which take hold of the culture and spew their far left ideas to keep the sheep brainwashed and angry at each other. Then of course there are the politicians who are the middle men doing the dirty for the globalist oligarchs, who get a cut from China.

I don't blame them, but this battle between the "far-right neo nazi's" and "ANTIFA/BLM" is just a media-contrived distraction while the politicians sell our asses out to China, who make trillions selling their cheap slave-driven labor to our dumbasses.

Let's do some science:

https://twitter.com/nj_hill/status/1331325403961679873

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Yes, that's true. I've yet to see a counterargument to why a few days of reduced life expectancy is worth trading off many months of reduced quality of life, or why my calculation was wrong.

Life expectancy models take into account the fact that 30 year old don't die of most things (including COVID). Arbitrarily dividing 10 years lost over the whole population distributes the risk in meaningless ways.

Here's a model suggesting many years of period life expectancy change.

Note the period life expectancy should rebound after the pandemic.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Yes, that's true. I've yet to see a counterargument to why a few days of reduced life expectancy is worth trading off many months of reduced quality of life, or why my calculation was wrong.

Life expectancy models take into account the fact that 30 year old don't die of most things (including COVID). Arbitrarily dividing 10 years lost over the whole population distributes the risk in meaningless ways.

Here's a model suggesting many years of period life expectancy change.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/comment?id=10.1371/annotation/d32818e1-9729-4822-aafd-033d1be602a3

Note the period life expectancy should rebound after the pandemic.

Average isn't meaningless. Actually I would say "period life expectancy" is meaningless because it only applies to those who die in the given period, which right now, is less than 0.1% of the population. Here's another way to look at it.

250,000 deaths x 10 years lost = 2.5 million person-years lost due to covid

330 million people under restrictions x 0.5 years = 165 million person-years of reduced quality of life

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

250,000 deaths x 10 years lost = 2.5 million person-years lost due to covid

330 million people under restrictions x 0.5 years = 165 million person-years of reduced quality of life

Depends how much you value going to a bar over someone else dying.

Also ignoring the fact that restrictions are to save more lives than those already lost.

But yes -- how many mask-wearing years equal one lost year of life? Do tell

aopfhp wrote:

Agingrunner wrote:

Both sides are guilty. Can you admit it?

Sure.

One side is guilty of what? Not following up on some viral social media post by some nobody?

The other side is guilty of not just ignoring but promoting and cheerleading untold lies and misdeeds by the President of the United States.

And for the fool who predictably brings up Russia, read this thread since I know you have not and will not read the Mueller report or the Senate Intel report..

https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1330957501827833858?s=20

A simple "No, I won't admit it." would have sufficed.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

250,000 deaths x 10 years lost = 2.5 million person-years lost due to covid

330 million people under restrictions x 0.5 years = 165 million person-years of reduced quality of life

Depends how much you value going to a bar over someone else dying.

Also ignoring the fact that restrictions are to save more lives than those already lost.

But yes -- how many mask-wearing years equal one lost year of life? Do tell

I think most people would trade 2.7 days of life expectancy for 8 months of better quality of life. Perhaps some very introverted people who don't like hanging out with friends, don't like to travel, don't play any recreational sports, don't have kids trying to navigate zoom school, etc don't mind the restrictions, but the great majority of people feel a difference.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

250,000 deaths x 10 years lost = 2.5 million person-years lost due to covid

330 million people under restrictions x 0.5 years = 165 million person-years of reduced quality of life

Depends how much you value going to a bar over someone else dying.

Also ignoring the fact that restrictions are to save more lives than those already lost.

But yes -- how many mask-wearing years equal one lost year of life? Do tell

It's not about going to a bar, you fear mongering swine.

It's about depression, suicide, job loss, addiction, relapsing, violence, abuse, etc.

But you just laugh.

I am sure your life is good.

Good for you.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Yes, that's true. I've yet to see a counterargument to why a few days of reduced life expectancy is worth trading off many months of reduced quality of life, or why my calculation was wrong.

Life expectancy models take into account the fact that 30 year old don't die of most things (including COVID). Arbitrarily dividing 10 years lost over the whole population distributes the risk in meaningless ways.

Here's a model suggesting many years of period life expectancy change.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/comment?id=10.1371/annotation/d32818e1-9729-4822-aafd-033d1be602a3

Note the period life expectancy should rebound after the pandemic.

Still with the ten years lost BS?

Median age at death is 82. Life expectancy for all 82 year olds is less than 8 years. For those with several comorbidities is far less than 8 years. Median life expectancy of those in nursing homes is six months.

Add it all up and avg life lost for those dying with Covid is @ 5-6 months.

Not ten years.

123 5 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Depends how much you value going to a bar over someone else dying.

Also ignoring the fact that restrictions are to save more lives than those already lost.

But yes -- how many mask-wearing years equal one lost year of life? Do tell

It's not about going to a bar, you fear mongering swine.

It's about depression, suicide, job loss, addiction, relapsing, violence, abuse, etc.

But you just laugh.

I am sure your life is good.

Good for you.

This. But there is no talking sense to these leftist fascists. The leaders see an opportunity to leverage the scamdemic .... the pathetic sheep love being told what to do and they especially love to do something that makes them feel virtuous (like drive around alone in their car with a mask on).

Or wearing their mask inside their home while writing a check to Planned Parenthood so PP can keep killing babies.

the media is corrupt wrote:

123 5 wrote:

It's not about going to a bar, you fear mongering swine.

It's about depression, suicide, job loss, addiction, relapsing, violence, abuse, etc.

But you just laugh.

I am sure your life is good.

Good for you.

This. But there is no talking sense to these leftist fascists. The leaders see an opportunity to leverage the scamdemic .... the pathetic sheep love being told what to do and they especially love to do something that makes them feel virtuous (like drive around alone in their car with a mask on).

Or wearing their mask inside their home while writing a check to Planned Parenthood so PP can keep killing babies.

Calm down Hardloper.

Where were those renowned fact-checkers when both the mainstream media and social media were pushing this story?

Interesting. Millions of people are injured in car accidents every year and thousands die. So every time you travel for leisure, is your pleasure more important than the lives that are lost due to your travel? You are so selfish to kill someone just so you can see a movie or go to dinner or go to a bar.

be patient wrote:

But but but hunters laptop.

Why do you dismiss that as no big deal? Imagine the firestorm that would have emerged had there been a laptop with Trump’s son selling access to the White House through his father? I mean, hunter’s business partner testified that Biden was fully aware and a participant as to what was going on.

Again, why do you dismiss this as no big deal? Your president is just as corrupt as the present one.

How many full-time government employees have lost their job while everyone (excepting certain governors) have lost liberty because of lies, deception, and exaggeration? Just wait until all of the now obsolete big city mass transit agencies demand more government handouts to prop them up because far fewer people need to commute to work. Next to fall will be commercial real estate as there is no longer a need for gleaming office buildings. So, do as your are told, stay home, stay safe, but don't open the door and beware of your neighbor informing on you.

Liberals and liberal run media are the real disease.

Sure I understand that explains Twitter and facebook. But how do you explain letsrun? I can't imagine it is remotely big enough for a the bots to attack but we are inudated with the crazies. Does running just attract nut jobs? Is Rojo recruiting them to keep the board active?Are there really only like 1 nut job and the rest all alt accounts?

It's like the craziest regulars on r/conservative migrated here.