This is an interesting argument. If you were starved for calories and poor this info could be helpful.
However aren't we talking about the fact that these people should be getting full on less calories.... To lose weight? Lol
This is an interesting argument. If you were starved for calories and poor this info could be helpful.
However aren't we talking about the fact that these people should be getting full on less calories.... To lose weight? Lol
Nothing healthy about chicken.
Basically diabetes w/ feathers.
Let me help you wrote:
if you’re on your feet in an Amazon warehouse for 12 hours a day, and get off your shift starving, the last thing you want to do is come home and cook. Same goes for those who work night shifts stocking shelves...etc. Manual labor is exhausting. You just wanna sit in your car and drive up to a window and be fed.
I don’t know too many people working 12 hour shifts of manual labor that are severely overweight. Although I did work in a shop once with one guy that was pretty fat, and he drank an entire 2-liter bottle of Coke at lunch EVERY SINGLE DAY. The rest of his eating was similarly grotesque.
dsrunner wrote:
Nothing healthy about chicken.
Basically diabetes w/ feathers.
Huh?
pandemicd out wrote:
This is just not true. Junk food is expensive as hell.
I shop at Whole Foods mostly, but I also eat my fair share of junk food. The junk is definitely NOT less expensive than healthy meals if you do even a modicum of meal planning. This is a lie meant to absolve fat people of personal responsibility for their bad choices.
A better argument in support of fat people might just be that genetics are destiny, but nobody likes that one for some reason.
Well that is why. Whole Foods junk food is expensive as hell. At my grocery store, I can buy a 32 pack of generic oreos for $1.25. Each pack contains around 3000 calories.
Long Run Nick wrote:
Most photos I see of COVID fatality victims appear to be overweight. Rarely hear reports from the media about what poor shape the majority of the US population is in. No mention of getting active, getting fit. A lot of reports on COVID weight gains.Sad.:(
Depends on your age but the mean mortality % doesn’t hit 1% until you hit 65 years old. For most of the population the mortality rate hovers around .05-.1%. Now your average American is not terribly healthy so if you are a healthy individual your mortality % drops very very low- easily below .1% for most age groups.
Simply put- if your healthy and you catch COVID there is a very slim chance you’ll feel much.
https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/11/18/covid-infection-fatality-rates-sex-and-age-15163Runningart2004 wrote:
Long Run Nick wrote:
Most photos I see of COVID fatality victims appear to be overweight. Rarely hear reports from the media about what poor shape the majority of the US population is in. No mention of getting active, getting fit. A lot of reports on COVID weight gains.Sad.:(
So old fat and out of shape people deserve to die?
It's like any other ailment. It will obviously affect the old, fat, and out of shape more severely....but like other contagious diseases you can spread it to someone less fortunate.
Turd
Why should society foot the bill for people who refuse to make any attempts to live a healthy lifestyle?
SeattleSilver wrote:
Long Run Nick wrote:
Most photos I see of COVID fatality victims appear to be overweight. Rarely hear reports from the media about what poor shape the majority of the US population is in. No mention of getting active, getting fit. A lot of reports on COVID weight gains.Sad.:(
What makes you think that statistic would be readily available to us?
Since COVID is here, it is a bit late for people to suddenly shape up to beat the Reaper.
And we have lots of illnesses that hit overweight people harder, now just COVID. Unfortunately, many Americans who should be getting in shape for a whole host of reasons continue to ignore it.
Well people have had 10 months or so to make lifetsyle changes regarding diet and exercise if they were concerned enough to do so knowing the virus would hit you harder if you are overweight. Doesn't seem like many want to be bothered to make changes for better health. Rather place blame elsewhere and have the government give them things.
laborer wrote:
Let me help you wrote:
if you’re on your feet in an Amazon warehouse for 12 hours a day, and get off your shift starving, the last thing you want to do is come home and cook. Same goes for those who work night shifts stocking shelves...etc. Manual labor is exhausting. You just wanna sit in your car and drive up to a window and be fed.
I don’t know too many people working 12 hour shifts of manual labor that are severely overweight. Although I did work in a shop once with one guy that was pretty fat, and he drank an entire 2-liter bottle of Coke at lunch EVERY SINGLE DAY. The rest of his eating was similarly grotesque.
I have weeks where I work 60-70 hours in five days. It’s all about food prepping. If I know it’s going to be a tough week at work I make four or five meals on Sunday and freeze them for use throughout the week for when I get home.
It’s really not that hard to do and it saves a bunch of money compared to eating out.
And yet people have managed to cook AND work for several millenia
Now that Covid is very widespread in my community I have seen plenty of older morbid over weight people have very mild cases of Covid.
I just lost an active, fit friend to COVID. No underlying health conditions that I know of. He was 65, but I thought he was in his mid 50s based on his appearance and fitness. I met him on Ragbrai (bike ride across Iowa), but he also did competitive rollerblading and skiing. Still stunned. My family has been taking COVID really seriously in order to protect others, but I would have thought someone like my friend would have been laid up for a couple weeks and been over it.
Our obese president who can barely climb stairs got over this thing, but my friend who was in great shape was killed by it. I'm sure fitness helps your odds, but there's still an element of luck involved. Please take this seriously.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
Simply put- if your healthy and you catch COVID there is a very slim chance you’ll feel much.
Nonsense. There's a slim chance you'll die, but 80% of cases are symptomatic. You'll likely feel like crap for 2 days-4 weeks, and may set back your training by weeks or months. Don't get this disease and don't contribute to the spread.
In case you were wondering why no one in Japan or Hong Kong is dying despite no lockdowns:
No there isn't. 20 guys on my XC team tested positive but not one had symptoms. 90% of healthy people under 40 experience no symptoms.
People in the US are obese because diet and exercise have been commodified and turned into a privilege for people with high incomes or people who have no family commitments. For many low income workers with families, exercise and diet are luxuries. Long commutes, long hours and often multiple employers, no access to affordable child care and food deserts mean that people often rely on fast food and have little or no time for exercise. With more and more work low wage being sedentary positions, low income people are taking the brunt of the obesity crisis. Then, these same workers are often in "essential" positions, live in multigenerational families and have no ability to quarantine sick family members away from healthy one. Thus, they take the brunt of COVID 19 exposure.
Also, being obese is not fun. It is not like obese people feel like a 22 year old fitness model all the time. Even if you want to create a narrative where obese people are bad because they are lazy and make bad diet choices, that does not mean they should suffer any more than they do from being obese. That kind of argument borders on eugenics and is pretty disgusting.
During WWII, the US drafted everyone over the age of 18. The draftees who had medical conditions were kept at home while the healthy draftees went and fought. In 2020, all we are asking of the young and healthy is to socially distance and wear a mask in public for the benefit of those who are at risk of COVID 19. I have never cared much for the debates about participation trophies and helicopter parenting, but I now am starting to see why this generation is so selfish and self centered.
All the common preventions I hear for covid, or any disease for that matter, are generally mutually exclusive with being fat and unhealthy. Being active, outside, a well-balanced diet with adequate hydration, getting enough sleep - all things that fat and unhealthy people don't do.
I don't get it, everybody loves to laugh at how fat and disgusting lazy slobs Americans are, why is it so much of a surprise to anyone that we didn't fare so well against a virus compared to most of the world.
This is why my first prediction when covid broke out was that Capitalist East Asia would be barely touched, and not because they wear masks and everyone else doesn't. It's because they eat well and walk everywhere.
If all countries had waistline standards, as Japan does, many millions of lives would be saved.
This is by far the dumbest thing I've ever read. Taking 30-60 minutes and doing some running/calisthenics at home literally costs nothing, I'm not sure how that's commodified. Also, the idea that eating healthy is more expensive is a myth purported by fat and lazy people. Plus the ensuing health bills add up pretty quick.
"that does not mean they should suffer any more than they do from being obese. That kind of argument borders on eugenics and is pretty disgusting" How is saying it is a good idea to live a healthy lifestyle bordering on eugenics? Do you even know what you're saying or do you just spew out what the media spoonfeeds you because you think you'll earn more woke points that way. Not everything in the world revolves around nazi's, white supremacy and eugenics.
Since you will not: please share where do you get your facts. I have been searching all over for actual data on social distancing and masks, I have found articles from random news sites but so far no actual "pro-mask" research just opinion pieces. I have seen a lot that state no correlation between mask and lowering risk of virus transmission. Here is a recent one with COVID-19 as the basis, was even studied longer than the recent vaccines that have been released.
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