Grant Holloway isn't a word class athlete; change my mind.

toomuch$$$$$ wrote: Grant is an amazing athlete obviously but if he had the true full elite athlete package you can't tell me he would choose hurdling over nba or nfl.

This rationale is flawed because it's already public record that Grant, in part, chose track over football because he didnt want his body to be broken down by 30 having endured all that high impact on the gridiron.

I'd have to agree with him. Is a lucrative contract worth all that wear and tear on the body and possible case of CTE?

I was shocked to see that Daniel Jones's max speed pre-fall was the fastest in the NFL this season at the time and the fastest for a QB in about three or four years. Lamar Jackson has an 11.45 100m time from hs but ran a very fast 4.34 40 pre-draft.

Jones's pre-combine 40y was only 4.67, pretty good for a qb but nothing like Jackson's time.

Correction: Jones is the fastest qb this year, not the fastest overall, in top speed in a game. At #20, he's the top rated qb since at least 2016 in speed. At 21.23 mph, he may not be the fastest qb in that 5 season period but he wouldn't be far off, as no others were in the top 20 and the list only goes that far.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2020/REG/all

Who cares? Almost every single athlete you mentioned here is highly likely to be myostatin deficient like Harry Aikines or have some degree of myostatin deficiency. There's different levels meaning some are on a higher or lower end of the scale of myostatin deficiency.

I'll end this discussion right here and right now.

I'm the greatest NON-myostatin deficient athlete on the planet. Because first off to be considered an athlete you have to be NON-myostatin deficient. Nobody really cares about myostatin deficient athletes like Aikines or Anthony Joshua. Not even other myostatin deficients really care about other myostatin deficients.

Meaning anything accomplished on myostatin deficiency DOESN'T count. That basically negates the accomplishments of the entire NFL.

For example Anthony Joshua doesn't even lift heavy. He does yoga workouts and still has 19 inch biceps. That disqualifies him. Because he's highly likely to be myostatin deficient. If you grow like a plant with miracle grow poured all over you then you get zero respect from me.

Joshua doesn't even push himself. He's on probably the dumbest workout program in existence but he's still going to grow bigger than everyone else due to his myostatin deficiency disorder like Aikines.

I have absolute ZERO respect for anything that grows without will power or actual effort. If you're growing that big from yoga then you get zero respect.

I'm bigger, faster, stronger, and on a side note hotter than every single NON-myostatin deficient athlete on the planet naturally.

There you go. End of discussion.

The only thing I hear in this thread is this.

Blah blah blah.

But this myostatin deficient ran this.

And this myostatin deficient ran this.

But wait. Bo Jackson. Also Vernon Davis.... .blah blah blah.. And more blah blah blah.

STFU.

Brooks Sucks wrote:

Insane stuff.

So, I'm a bit late to this party, but dude, you are off your rocker. OF COURSE he's a world class athlete. The only way you can justify that idiotic comment at all is to decide that hurdlers aren't athletes, an that's just crazy town BS.

You're just wrong.

Hayes never ran the 60m. Graddy ran the 60m in 6.63, Ron Brown ran 6.61. No NFL player has run faster than 6.50 60m in history.

Bob Hayes= 100m/10.05 personal record is typically referred to as the fastest man in NFL history because of his OLY gold medal. However this has been bettered by Brown's (collegiate) 10.01 time which is superior. Hayes was on the (then) WR OLY US team that ran 39.0.

Holloway has never ran an open 100m. Now, consider he was is part of a collegiate 4x100 relay time 37.97, which would have placed them 6th in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! Also consider Holloway has run 43.75 400m relay split. This is a world class time in the 400m relay. So to summarize, Holloway is world class in the 60m, 4x100m, 4x400m. It appears that he is faster than all the previous athletes in NFL history.

Hayes running a 10.06 on a dirt track over 50 years ago is superior to what any NFLer has even run. He is without question the fastest NFL player, and can't see that changing.

Ron Brown had a 10.06 PR.

If not for football and if he could have found a sponser Hayes would have won in Mexico City in 68 and if Jim Hines can run 9.95, Hayes....9.85.

FirstTwin wrote:

Hayes never ran the 60m. Graddy ran the 60m in 6.63, Ron Brown ran 6.61. No NFL player has run faster than 6.50 60m in history.

Bob Hayes= 100m/10.05 personal record is typically referred to as the fastest man in NFL history because of his OLY gold medal. However this has been bettered by Brown's (collegiate) 10.01 time which is superior. Hayes was on the (then) WR OLY US team that ran 39.0.

Holloway has never ran an open 100m. Now, consider he was is part of a collegiate 4x100 relay time 37.97, which would have placed them 6th in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! Also consider Holloway has run 43.75 400m relay split. This is a world class time in the 400m relay. So to summarize, Holloway is world class in the 60m, 4x100m, 4x400m. It appears that he is faster than all the previous athletes in NFL history.

Well, if you are going to count relay splits Hayes recorded a 8.5 second (hand time) 4×100 meter anchor relay leg at the 1964 Tokyo Olympics. Converted to FAT, that “translates” to 8.74 seconds.

Fastest NFLplayers time wise

Jimmy Hines 9.95 altitude

Trindon Holliday 10.00

Jeff Demps 10.01

Jacoby Ford 10.01

Bob Hayes 10.06........on a shoddy dirt track over 50 years ago makes this is superior time***

Ron Brown 10.06

Alvis Whitted 10.07

Darrell Green 10.08

Sam Graddy 10.09

*** if in a middle lane between Figuerola and Jerome we would have seen the first legal sub10.00. He did run a 9.91 in the heats but windy.

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You would first have to define what you mean by "world class athlete". Having done so, the answer becomes easy.

Grant Holloway is without question a world class athlete.

He can sprint, long jump, a 43,7 4x4 split, best hurdler in the world and once upon a time...

How could anyone doubt this stud as being world class?

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