Can eating anti-inflammatory foods help you recover from muscle/tendon injury faster?

sailors & pirates wrote:

Pirates & sailors a couple hundred years ago knew no better and ate like you. See scurvy.

And long before that, it was known fresh meat prevented and cured scurvy.

Not exactly a great idea to bring live animals on board for sailors to eat during lengthy voyages though. Limes take up much less room.

eat well + don't drink alcohol when injured

Opinionated guy wrote:

I know very little about this but listened to Arthur Lydiard at a clinic many years ago. He spent about 20 minutes touting black licorise as an anti-inflammatory and how important it was to indulge regularly as part of his philosophy

I know this doesn't help your question at all but I find it related and interesting.

Black licorice has many many drug interactions. This proves Lydiard was doping.

markboen wrote:

Inflammation is the first phase of wound healing. During the inflammatory phase, damaged cells, pathogens, and bacteria are removed from the wound area. These white blood cells, growth factors, nutrients and enzymes create the swelling, heat, pain and redness commonly seen during this stage of wound healing. Any attempt to lessen inflammation will slow down the healing process, e.g., ice. The body knows how to heal itself.

What about after the initial healing phase? Say after a few months, when you're still trying to nurse the tendon back and stimulate collagen patterning and muscle growth with PT?

Also I'm sorry OP, this thread has been really derailed.

Just recently listened to a podcast on acute injury treatment and they discuss the inflammatory cascade

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/acute-injury-treatment/id1513853437?i=1000487576545

Nope. B12 is produced from bacteria in soil. This is where animals receive their B12 from, the same as our human ancestors would have. It enter waterways from the soil as well, drinking clean water in the past meant drinking water from a moving source ie a river or creek where B12 would be entering the water from run off. Hunter gatherers foraging for tubers and drinking from water ways would receive plenty of B12 without any source of animal products. Some study from 1950 is meaningless. For one, B12 is stored, therefor small amounts of it would add up overtime. Obviously humans did also eat animals but regardless if there was a steady supply of meat or not humans of the past were not in danger of being B12 deficient.

Hello Jello wrote:

Hazel wrote:

Let's say you were diagnosed with a tendon or calf strain. Doctor says the area is inflamed..does that mean you could theoretically recover from the injury faster if upping anti-inflammatory foods into your diet?

Eat more jello for tendinopathy...

https://www.outsideonline.com/2392880/gelatin-injury-prevention-recovery

+1

Anti inflammatory diets are a fad no different than the keto or atkins diet was. The science is constantly evolving and contradicting itself like it does in any other aspect of life. I keep it old school and try to eat a well balanced diet with a focus on good quality meat and vegetables and have never had an injury other than minor IT band issues.

false wrote:

Nope. B12 is produced from bacteria in soil. This is where animals receive their B12 from, the same as our human ancestors would have. It enter waterways from the soil as well, drinking clean water in the past meant drinking water from a moving source ie a river or creek where B12 would be entering the water from run off. Hunter gatherers foraging for tubers and drinking from water ways would receive plenty of B12 without any source of animal products. Some study from 1950 is meaningless. For one, B12 is stored, therefor small amounts of it would add up overtime. Obviously humans did also eat animals but regardless if there was a steady supply of meat or not humans of the past were not in danger of being B12 deficient.

Username checks out, nearly everything you wrote is false. There is no meaningful amount of B12 in soil and most of what is present is from animal excrement. All herbivores obtain B12 from a symbiotic relationship with their gut microbes. Most omnivores and all carnivores get their B12 from eating the herbivores.

The study from the 1950's was done on a wide variety of soil samples. Archaeological fossil evidence shows hunter gatherers dying from a B12 deficiency. Indicating hunting had been poor for some time.

YMMV wrote:

false wrote:

Also, the likely reason it 'works' is because of the cessation of consuming something on a regular basis that was causing an allergic type reaction. Its not so much the inclusion of nothing but meat but rather the exclusion of something(s) causing a food sensitivity issue.

This is why many people find an elimination diet helpful.

Form an autoimmune perspective, carnivore is the ultimate elimination diet, since you are eliminating all plant toxins. The other piece however is that it had all nutrients in their most bioavailable form, so perfect nutrition is possible, this being the foundation of rapid healing and intrinsic durability and resilience to injury in the first place.

Actually, from an autoimmune perspective it is not. Most autoimmune elimination diets require cutting out red meat and pork as they commonly are triggers for many people. Some elimination diets will allow or call for bone broth but will cut meat in the beginning.

Inflammable wrote:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/inflammatory-claims-about-inflammation_b_7465534

LOL an article that "shoots down food myths" around inflammation, yet repeatedly proposes it's own insidious myth: that saturated fat causes inflammation. Completely unfounded BS without scientific basis, just like saturated fat and cholesterol were blamed for heart disease (now finally debunked by overwhelming metanalysis).

If it was the case that saturated fat caused inflammation in any degree, I simply would not be able to crawl out of bed. Actually, that situation that actually was the case 30 years ago, when, as a "low-fat vegetarian" I was on heavy anti-inflammatory meds and facing metabolic disaster. Now, eating nothing but animal protein and high amounts of healthy (i.e. saturated) fat, I am 100% pain free and full of energy.

With tripe like this still being fobbed onto the masses, it is no wonder that everybody is obese and decrepit. The lies continue unabated.