Let's say you were diagnosed with a tendon or calf strain. Doctor says the area is inflamed..does that mean you could theoretically recover from the injury faster if upping anti-inflammatory foods into your diet?
Let's say you were diagnosed with a tendon or calf strain. Doctor says the area is inflamed..does that mean you could theoretically recover from the injury faster if upping anti-inflammatory foods into your diet?
No.
No. Anti-inflammatories hinder tissue recovery. Prostaglandin is not something you want to blunt because one of it’s functions is tissue synthesis.
Yes. Since switching to 99% meat, fish eggs and butter I am able to recover much more quickly and am absolutely resistant to injury and soreness for the most part. On a whole foods high-plant diet, I was constantly on the edge of injury and had several career-ending type injuries that took a decade or more to resolve.
Plant foods are almost all pro-inflammatory, particularly carbs and seed oils, which are found in almost every processed food. Eating at restaurants is especially egregious, since everything is cooked in toxic oils with added sugar.
Thanks - this is interesting. I would think meats are more inflammatory vs leafy greens per commonly cited studies?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation
I'm mostly wondering how much my diet is impacting my ability to come back faster from injury.
YMMV wrote:
Yes.
This is correct. Ignore the rest of his post.
YMMV wrote:
Yes. Since switching to 99% meat, fish eggs and butter I am able to recover much more quickly and am absolutely resistant to injury and soreness for the most part. On a whole foods high-plant diet, I was constantly on the edge of injury and had several career-ending type injuries that took a decade or more to resolve.
Plant foods are almost all pro-inflammatory, particularly carbs and seed oils, which are found in almost every processed food. Eating at restaurants is especially egregious, since everything is cooked in toxic oils with added sugar.
Don't listen to this guy.
A healthy diet is always the best. Do your injuries heal faster because of that? I would love to think so but I am sure that is almost impossible to prove.
"Inflammation" is a buzzword right now. This is frustrating because it IS an area of active research, but there are plenty of Instagram (and LRC) lifestyle gurus who claim they know the key to a healthy, anti-inflammatory diet. Problem is, they don't understand the background knowledge, other than the pseudo-scientific babble they trade back and forth. It creates a culture of people who truly believe they have the answers, because all their followers and friends say so.
I know very little about this but listened to Arthur Lydiard at a clinic many years ago. He spent about 20 minutes touting black licorise as an anti-inflammatory and how important it was to indulge regularly as part of his philosophy
I know this doesn't help your question at all but I find it related and interesting.
Eat whatever you want. Rather, go where people are healthy and eat whatever you want. I live in a part of Western Europe for part of the year and I always get so lean and trim while there. Recovery is not an issue like when I am in the US. I eat whatever and no matter what I eat it's almost all good.
As mentioned, prostaglandin stimulates tissue synthesis. You don’t want to blunt it through diet or anti-inflammatory drugs. A diet should be mixed. Meat eaters have higher serum IGF-1 (precursor to growth hormone), whereas fruits and veggies have potassium citrate, which is converted to bicarbonate and buffers the acid load of meat. They are both important. Also, the body needs a balance of oils, and every carbohydrate becomes glucose and ATP. Stop the skewed diet nonsense.
Pajac wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Yes.
This is correct. Ignore the rest of his post.
You are both wrong. Inflammation is part of the healing process. How much of a lifestyle guru are you guys pretending to be with your fad diets?
As others mentioned, inflammation is needed for healing.
But, inflammation can be exercised on an average American diet.
Whether you're vegan, paleo, primal, or whatever, including more unprocessed vegetables helps your body function better.
very interesting information. check with specialists
Not really.
Meat and fat have been shown to be slightly inflammatory, so the vegans tried to make inflammation a big bad thing to try and get people to stop eating meat.
Then the keto people came along and said "nuh-uh, we're not inflammatory, you are!". If you haven't caught on yet, everything the keto people do is a directly imitation of what the vegans did earlier but with everything flipped.
The vegans said "prove it".
The ketoers said "fine" and to their great credit funded a study with the National Institutes of Health and the top nutrition researchers. The study found, surprise, surprise, that meat and fat increased inflammation.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oby.22468
But it really doesn't matter that much. It's overblown and has little to do with recovering from injuries. Eat tasty meat. You'll be fine.
Inflammable wrote:
Not really.
Meat and fat have been shown to be slightly inflammatory, so the vegans tried to make inflammation a big bad thing to try and get people to stop eating meat.
Then the keto people came along and said "nuh-uh, we're not inflammatory, you are!". If you haven't caught on yet, everything the keto people do is a directly imitation of what the vegans did earlier but with everything flipped.
The vegans said "prove it".
The ketoers said "fine" and to their great credit funded a study with the National Institutes of Health and the top nutrition researchers. The study found, surprise, surprise, that meat and fat increased inflammation.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oby.22468But it really doesn't matter that much. It's overblown and has little to do with recovering from injuries. Eat tasty meat. You'll be fine.
Garbage study that contributed to the breakup of that particular collaboration.
By age 55, after decades on a plant-based "Mediterranean Style" diet, I had
-Pre-diabetes
-Career-stomping injuries
-Brain fog
-Low energy
-Serious sleep apnea
-Low iron and ferritin
-Persistent aches and soreness, especially after workouts
-Cardiac arrhythmia
-Recurring bronchial infections including pneumonias, and I caught every winter bug that went around.
-Constantly swollen ankles
-Cystic acne
-Sun sensitivity
-bug bites drove me crazy in the mountains
-eye floaters
-could barely hear in one ear due to rapid earwax buildup
-Graying hair
-constant digestive issues, including runny stool and gas
-teeth getting thin and brittle, were snapping in two, lots of cavities despite constant brushing and flossing
-bleeding an receding gums
I will stop there, but suffice it to say that almost all of these conditions have a common denominator: chronic systemic inflammation. Since going carnivore, all of these issues are GONE.
Like seriously...GONE.
I pity anyone who follows mainstream advice (as I did to no avail) to deal with any of these issues, much less the whole flotilla. Throwing out all my old meds, including ibuprofen ("Vitamin I" for inflamed athletes) was one of the best moments of my life
Meat, fish and eggs have been the principal nutrition for humans for over two million years. Being carnivorous is what distinguishes us from the apes, who have triple the digestive tract and a third of the brain size. Go against evolution at your own peril. I choose to be in harmony with our meat-eating legacy, and have the results to show for it.
Apes, e.g. chimpanzees eat mea on a regularly basis so this does not distinguish us from them.
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Is this a troll post. Carnivores eat only meat. Omnivores eat meat and other stuff. A human who ate only meat would become very sick in short order.
crazy talk wrote:
Is this a troll post. Carnivores eat only meat. Omnivores eat meat and other stuff. A human who ate only meat would become very sick in short order.
One year, eight months for me, healthy as mule. That comes after four years of about 85-95% carnivore (i.e.keto-omnivore). Others have gone many decades with perfect health on only steaks.
Dogs, our fellow carnivore companions, have almost an identical digestion (ours is slightly more optimized for meat), preference for meat, and omnivory during scarcity.
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