Hoare/Klecker

shamrockwizz wrote:

Why does ‘King’ Klecker, the face and focal point of the newly minted OAC keep getting beaten by his sidekick? Mile, 1500, 5k, doesn’t matter. I thought he was in 13:0x shape? I thought the group was built around him? Does Olli Hoare have a logo?

WHY? Well, silly rabbit, because ON wanted him first and ceded him terms to choose the coach and training location for the group. Why did ON want him first? Probably has something to do with their business aims to expand in the US market and leadership potential they see in him. You do know that to most people these times are more or less identical, right? That people buy their gear based more on image than on data, no? That more people will be seeing Klecker racing at the Olympic Trials than will see all of Hoare's racing in the next year? Of course not, you're some basement dwelling message board dork.

shamrockwizz wrote:

Never seen a team constructed this way with a very specific and expressed hierarchy. Especially given the fact that the ‘centerpiece’ of the team has an extremely mediocre resume. Should be a huge deal that he is 0-3 out of the gates to one of his hand selected serfs.

NOP was set up that way for Rupp before Rupp was a GOAT.

Klecker: “I can run 13:00-13:05 right now.”

*Runs 13:28 in perfect conditions*.

Lol. Delusional.

klecker the king wrote:

$50k and $30k.

Makes it tough to live in Bolder CO on that salary.

[quote]popsrer wrote:

Klecker: “I can run 13:00-13:05 right now.”

*Runs 13:28 in perfect conditions*.

Lol.

It wasn't perfect conditions but i dont think klecker is in that shape. I think he said that becuase he did a workout that ritz did in a similar time and ritz ran 12:55 a month after the same workout. Thats why he thought he was in that type of shape.

Yeah, Klecker never said that so stop getting it twisted, LRCBF. Ritz is the one who made the statement about the workout and how it related to his own, past race fitness.

You guys are all assholes. These guys work really hard and just ran 13:28 in 85 degree weather (i.e not perfect conditions). Get your fat asses off the couch and give these young kids some credit.

It was warm but not 85 for the 5000. Always fun to watch weather exaggerations.

How many 13:28 guys out there have logos?

Further, how many 13:28 guys have logos featuring a GD crown?

Discus.

I don't think there is a hierarchy. Klecker appears to be the first one signed and thus had a lot of say about the coach.

Hoare might have signed weeks later after getting turned down by Nike and other sponsors.

How has nobody mentioned the real reason why Klecker is the group’s central character??

It’s because he is MORE HANDSOME and has a MASCULINE JAWLINE. Uh duhhhhhhhh. They want him for the ads and to make lil distance runners look up to him as macho man.

Sure, I'm not saying he shouldn't be sponsored. But at this early stage of his career he shouldn't be aiming to be an also-ran in the marathon as one poster suggested. He has potential on the track and needs to focus on being globally competitive if he wants a real legacy in the sport

OG Coconino Cowboy wrote:

Because Klecker will be a brilliant marathoner one day. I understand why he's running 1500's and Mike's at the moment, but in a couple of years, he will move up to the marathon and run 2.07.

He has great genes but is also a brick sh*t house when you compare him to 2:07 marathoners. Hes got to be 20lbs heavier than Rupp. 1500-5k is his wheelhouse. Maybe the 10k later.

klecker's training over the past 6 months showed he was in olympic standard shape. wish they would've gone out in 4:10, would've been interesting to see. but nonetheless he trains like an animal and will soon provide results to back it up. him and ritz will be good together. my guess is that klecker may have peaked too soon, shouldn't have ran that 1500 in my opinion but it was a pr. that 6xmile workout avg 4:21 (last 2 4:15) may have been too far out from the 5k. i feel like straight off of a 90 mile week he could run faster than 13:28. his day will come soon.

runderun wrote:

OG Coconino Cowboy wrote:

Because Klecker will be a brilliant marathoner one day. I understand why he's running 1500's and Mike's at the moment, but in a couple of years, he will move up to the marathon and run 2.07.

2:07 means a career running for 8th-12th place. You need to be 2:04-2:05 to even be in the mix for podiums. If 2:07 Is his ceiling, he's a domestic runner

uhhh what? WMMs are won with 2:06-9 on occasion, rupp got bronze in rio in a slow time, and Ward almost medaled as well. Have you been living under a rock, or are you just talking out of your ass? a 2:06 guy is very, very competitive in all but the paced/time trial marathons.

+1

Yeah, that little crown puts sand in your slit.

2020 is the year to progress and leave some in the tank when real racing for real stakes comes back, not running out of your gourd and stalling on a plateau soon after.

Klecker has good pedigree: Mom is Janis Klecker, Olympic Marathoner, and Dad is Barney Klecker, Ultramarathoner.

Poor DeKoker... did not see this coming. He didn't even mention Hoare in his interview. Not a great start to the OAC.