It’s great that the group is growing but idk who their next consistently competitive runner will be. There’s Drew who is a remarkable talent for his age and the most promising overall, and then Sam Parsons who competes for Germany. But I don’t know who else in the group will be able to make a US team or hit a WC/Olympic team, or be on the DL or international circuit.
I do t knock anyone who can afford to keep on running. My serious question was who else can get the IAAF standard in Tinman beyond Hunter?
seriously????? wrote:
Tinman Cometh wrote:
Cameron Griffiths - Arkansas by way of OZ
Jamaine Coleman- EKU by way of England
Brogan Austin, US Marathon Champ 2019, Drake Alum
What do we make of the new additions?
Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.
What’s your deal? Isn’t the whole idea just to be the best version of themselves?
Significantly high chance you’ve never spent any time with any of them. Strange to have such deep hatred in a scenario like that.
The reality is, most coaches (with the exception of maybe 5-6 in the nation) are paid by the athletes
I actually think THEY pay Tinman. Wasn't Hudson's gang the same way, you pay to be in it?[/quote]
too far quest wrote:
I do t knock anyone who can afford to keep on running. My serious question was who else can get the IAAF standard in Tinman beyond Hunter?
Parsons and Gusman hit the 5k standard in 2019. The new boi Jamaine Coleman ran at worlds for GB in the steeple
This is pretty funny to me. Schwartz told Charlie Lawrence the elite team was full when he moved to Boulder a few months ago. Clearly that wasn't the case as evidenced by this news. If Schwartz doesn't think he's fast enough for the elite team that's fine, but why did he lie to Charlie about the team being full when that was clearly not true?
youallsuck wrote:
This site is depressing. Anyone who attempts to become a better runner is crucified because they don’t have the “talent” to be a world champ. In the eyes of Letsrun everyone that isn’t 13:0x or 3:30s low should retire immediately apparently because there’s no hope of them becoming great. And if they do? Obviously doped.
You all suck.
And if they exceed those times and are of african descent they are invalid because suddenly they can't be a REAL citizen or they are CLEARLY dirty
aluminum man elite wrote:
This is pretty funny to me. Schwartz told Charlie Lawrence the elite team was full when he moved to Boulder a few months ago. Clearly that wasn't the case as evidenced by this news. If Schwartz doesn't think he's fast enough for the elite team that's fine, but why did he lie to Charlie about the team being full when that was clearly not true?
Coach did his homework on this one. Checked with the team and there was not a single YES. Checked with his previous team and heard some crazy stories.
Not a bad cast of characters. I’d put them up against group of D level Kenyans any day of the weekend.
Thanks for the reply, Drew. Still doesn't change the fact Schwartz felt he needed to lie vs simply be honest that he didn't think Charlie would be a good fit
Charlie was way too honest. He knew that he would be owning these azzclowns on every long run and he wasn’t afraid to say so. Tinman Elites loss is Ritz’s new groups gain.
I just looked up this Charlie Lawrence guy and he looks like he would have been the Caboose on Tinman Elite. I don’t get the big fuss.
Best of luck to them!
IMO there's a lot to be said for having a big training group, e.g. if some of your training partners are injured or traveling or whatever you still have people to do workouts with.
So if they have to take on a few people who are a little slower than the guys at the top, that's fine, they can still do a lot of workouts together (maybe they'll do fewer reps). And maybe some of those guys will be dragged along to greatness.
I miss college XC a lot right now, I'm happy for these guys that the can experience something like that in these troubled times.
hypoxic bliss wrote:
seriously????? wrote:
Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.
What’s your deal? Isn’t the whole idea just to be the best version of themselves?
Significantly high chance you’ve never spent any time with any of them. Strange to have such deep hatred in a scenario like that.
Where in my post do you sense a "deep hatred"?
Is my post wrong? I think it is great they are living out their dreams of reaching their full potential, just doubt any of these guys will make any dent on the world stage.
never heard of any of them
That's the whole point. Get these guys in at altitude training like real pros and see if we can make some magic happen. They get help from the team sponsor (Adidas), so yes, some work on the side to put food on the table, but that's admirable as heck. When they make IAAF standards, you'll be even more impressed.
Until they produce OG or WC medal (s), they will be just a fun group to hear about. Don't get me wrong, they have studs on the team -plus a huge young fan base which is good for the support.
Go TINMAN!
I also don't understand the animosity towards good runners doing what they can to compete at a high level after college. By the time you finish college, most good-but-not-great runners are very aware of their limitations. Some want to continue on in the sport anyway. Good for them. If nothing else, it's a great way to spend your twenties. Getting the chance to race and chase PRs is also great. And some just might make an unexpected jump in results and make a US Team--it has happened before.
youallsuck wrote:
This site is depressing. Anyone who attempts to become a better runner is crucified because they don’t have the “talent” to be a world champ. In the eyes of Letsrun everyone that isn’t 13:0x or 3:30s low should retire immediately apparently because there’s no hope of them becoming great. And if they do? Obviously doped.
You all suck.
I agree but the Tinmen crew need to lose the rabbit ears and stopping fighting the war on internet trolls. You can't win that fight.
youallsuck wrote:
This site is depressing. Anyone who attempts to become a better runner is crucified because they don’t have the “talent” to be a world champ. In the eyes of Letsrun everyone that isn’t 13:0x or 3:30s low should retire immediately apparently because there’s no hope of them becoming great. And if they do? Obviously doped.
You all suck.
100%. It seems that a prerequisite to post on letsrun is to be a cnut.