Ryan Hall SHREDDER.. men’s health

YMMV wrote:

I would give him more credit if he was more forthcoming on his medical "supplementation".

Also, every time he refers to himself as a "2:04 marathoner" he looks a bit of a tool to those familiar with that race.

So he may be on something but somehow US running fans will tell that his wife doesn't touch any of the stuff. Lol.

Ryan:

You need to work on your legs. Big upper body, paltry legs

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I wonder if he's been channeling his inner David Goggins to "Stay Hard?"

RIP Halls back (baby?)

No matter how much muscle anyone has built up, deadlifting an 455 pounds isn't a good idea. I mean, sure he gets the weight in the air but the weight will put massive stress on his back.

Oh man, looking back at his running career, he will not stop working out until his body breaks down.

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

I wonder if he's been channeling his inner David Goggins to "Stay Hard?"

Nah Goggins is way tougher, he's not about all those ridiculous glamour shots and lifting heavy to try and feel good about yourself.

He's all about body weight exercises and running long and far

I spent a week with Ryan Hall at a small running camp while he was at Stanford. He was taller than me and I'm 5'8". So unless you've got a really small head you're the one who's mistaken.

By the way, he never said he was shredded, other people did.

The Tofu guy here wrote:

Wow, I agree with YMMV.

Ryan Hall ran 2:04:58 at Boston which is not a record eligible course. (downhill, wind assistance). That doesn't count as a real PR.

So he is more of a 2:06:17 guy, I think (London 2008)

T-with an O, with a T-O-O, with a T-O-O-L, TOOL! And it ain't Ryan Hall.

He is a 2:04:58 guy, and nothin's ever going to take that away from him. If he wants to say he's a 2:04 marathoner, that's fine - because he is, forever and ever.

Putting it in another way, Ryan Hall ran 26.2 miles on a legitimate course in 2:04:58. That means he ran 2:04:58 for a full-distance marathon. That means he ran 26.2 miles faster than any winner of the prestigious NYC Marathon. Comprende?

Any runner has the right to give his or her best marathon time, if asked, without having to justify that time in terms of temperature, wind, elevation change, number of official water stations, carb content of the spaghetti at the dinner banquet the night before, etc.

Not really. So if you run 2:30 at the St. George Marathon or one of those ridiculous downhill marathon courses (the REVEL series) with over 3,000 feet of elevation loss, than you're a 2:30 marathoner? Hell no you're not

T-with an O, with a T-O-O, with a T-O-O-L, TOOL! And it ain't Ryan Hall.

He is a 2:04:58 guy, and nothin's ever going to take that away from him. If he wants to say he's a 2:04 marathoner, that's fine - because he is, forever and ever.

Putting it in another way, Ryan Hall ran 26.2 miles on a legitimate course in 2:04:58. That means he ran 2:04:58 for a full-distance marathon. That means he ran 26.2 miles faster than any winner of the prestigious NYC Marathon. Comprende?

Any runner has the right to give his or her best marathon time, if asked, without having to justify that time in terms of temperature, wind, elevation change, number of official water stations, carb content of the spaghetti at the dinner banquet the night before, etc.[/quote]

To put it another way: The great Chris Solinski had EVERY right to call himself a sub 27 guy. But he didn't. As he said, "you're only as good as your second best race. I never broke 27 again, so I'm really a 27:XX (whatever his second best time is) guy"

Hall never sniffed 2:04 again and that was due to a giant tailwind. If he's really honest, he's a 2:06 guy.

uu.uuu wrote:

I cannot stress enough just how easy weightlifting is, especially when compared to the sacrifice that is running at a high level.

Any of you low-body fat runners with a bit of definition or abs who might be reading this, I guarantee you the following: Were you take two or three months off from running and put the same amount of time into lifting, you would already be approaching fitness model levels. This is assuming proper nutrition and recovery, of course.

Agreed, weightlifting is essentially like only doing strides. Ever

Noelleon wrote:

No matter how much muscle anyone has built up, deadlifting an 455 pounds isn't a good idea. I mean, sure he gets the weight in the air but the weight will put massive stress on his back.

Oh man, looking back at his running career, he will not stop working out until his body breaks down.

Oh jeez you're probably the guy that says we should never run 100 mpw either, regardless of how gradual the progression is or how many years spent building up.

You realize that is a completely arbitrary number that may be 40% of someones 1RM? And how many men (and women) can handle that easily?

Guess what training is? It puts stress on your body - that's the point!

Going from borderline anorexic to hardcore meat head can’t be healthy either. Is there something going on that prevents Hall from working out without going to the extremes?

Absolutely shredded = Andreas Munzer

Very disappointed that there isn’t more in this list about his plans to defeat the TMNT. 0/10

lol@ him saying when he was 6 months out from a marathon, he could rarely hit goal race pace for just 1 mile. Did I read that correctly, or did I miss something?

What was his goal marathon time, 1:45-1:50?

This is called “narcissistic personality disorder.” Hope he begins to see a psychiatrist before he gets into his 40s and 50s. He’s going to have a really hard time coping with old age.

I’d generally agree with you that load volume and intensity are the driving factors, not form, for exercises with machines. Compound free weight exercises absolutely require proper form in addition to proper volume and intensity. In my experience, the olympic deadlift is the toughest one to get right and can have serious consequences for poor form, even with very low intensity and very low weight.

I finally stopped olympic deadlifts altogether in March of this year because I severely tweaked my back just being lazy and using poor form on just one rep during a low-weight set. Volume and intensity up to that point were quite low going into that day. Anyone who actually powerlifts - especially those who aren’t in their 20s anymore - knows how much form matters with deadlifts. In fact, many bodybuilders don’t incorporate them much or at all in their routines because the injury risk is not offset by the reward (for some people). It’s bad advice to say form isn’t important for injury risk, especially with compound free weight exercises.