Drew Brees ??‍♂️

Brees isn’t a racist. He was just tone deaf. It’s fine for him to stand and think about his grandfathers but that isn’t the America that many POC experience, so why should they?

Forced patriotism is fascism.

Don’t judge another man’s belief in how his brothers are treated without stepping in their shoes and really thinking about it. I’m a white male who lives a privileged life. I’m also not close minded and if a huge portion of our population is coming out in protesting the way they are being treated, I need to pause and really listen. Just because it doesn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

master plan wrote:

Brees isn’t a racist. He was just tone deaf. It’s fine for him to stand and think about his grandfathers but that isn’t the America that many POC experience, so why should they?

Forced patriotism is fascism.

Don’t judge another man’s belief in how his brothers are treated without stepping in their shoes and really thinking about it. I’m a white male who lives a privileged life. I’m also not close minded and if a huge portion of our population is coming out in protesting the way they are being treated, I need to pause and really listen. Just because it doesn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

+1

master plan wrote:

Brees isn’t a racist. He was just tone deaf. It’s fine for him to stand and think about his grandfathers but that isn’t the America that many POC experience, so why should they?

Forced patriotism is fascism.

Don’t judge another man’s belief in how his brothers are treated without stepping in their shoes and really thinking about it. I’m a white male who lives a privileged life. I’m also not close minded and if a huge portion of our population is coming out in protesting the way they are being treated, I need to pause and really listen. Just because it doesn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

Yet somehow those nasty racist Americans who are keeping the black man down aren’t racist towards Asians. Weird, huh?

By the way, I assume it’s white racism that is 100% of the problem? Since to even suggest that blacks bear some responsibility for the problems in the black community results in being branded racist.

Bogus!

Africans from Africa are black. Yet they immigrate to the United States and are attending Harvard and Yale.

But blacks who grew up in the United States and have been there for generations grow up to be thugs, drug dealers, wannabe rappers and career criminals.

Stop this ‘walk a mile in their shoes’ crap.

Black American culture is horrific. Just ask Bill Cosby:

https://www.amazon.com/Come-People-Path-Victims-Victors/dp/1595551867#immersive-view_1589561322558

GoodIntentions;-) wrote:

master plan wrote:

Brees isn’t a racist. He was just tone deaf. It’s fine for him to stand and think about his grandfathers but that isn’t the America that many POC experience, so why should they?

Forced patriotism is fascism.

Don’t judge another man’s belief in how his brothers are treated without stepping in their shoes and really thinking about it. I’m a white male who lives a privileged life. I’m also not close minded and if a huge portion of our population is coming out in protesting the way they are being treated, I need to pause and really listen. Just because it doesn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

+1

Amen

Tom Connors wrote:

Bogus!

Africans from Africa are black. Yet they immigrate to the United States and are attending Harvard and Yale.

But blacks who grew up in the United States and have been there for generations grow up to be thugs, drug dealers, wannabe rappers and career criminals.

Stop this ‘walk a mile in their shoes’ crap.

Black American culture is horrific. Just ask Bill Cosby:

https://www.amazon.com/Come-People-Path-Victims-Victors/dp/1595551867#immersive-view_1589561322558

Ignorance. Try being born in abject poverty , grow up in an urban neighborhood without decent schools, decent food, opportunities for work, plenty of mentors and role models and somehow pull yourself out of that vortex of hopelessness to become what a white person deems a success. The odds are stacked against you. There will be exceptions but that is what they are... exceptions.

A country, a civilization is only as strong as it’s weakest link.

That is quite racist. Grouping all poor blacks by saying that you are placing odds on each individual in that group that they are not capable or willing to become successful is very insulting.

Tom Connors wrote:

Bogus!

Africans from Africa are black. Yet they immigrate to the United States and are attending Harvard and Yale.

But blacks who grew up in the United States and have been there for generations grow up to be thugs, drug dealers, wannabe rappers and career criminals.

Stop this ‘walk a mile in their shoes’ crap.

Black American culture is horrific. Just ask Bill Cosby:

https://www.amazon.com/Come-People-Path-Victims-Victors/dp/1595551867#immersive-view_1589561322558

So you are saying that recently immigrated blacks are out performing blacks that have been in America for generations, and trying to use that to argue that there is NOT a historical negative systemic impact on blacks in the US?

Can't make this stuff up.

compren wrote:

GoodIntentions;-) wrote:

+1

Amen

Yeah so agree with all of this, in fact in no way at all is the statement made by Brees close to racist on any level or definition of racism. Buuuuut, and it's a huge but, the lack of awareness and judgement driven by a clearly inflated sense of rich white guy privilege is just really, really unfortunate.

The epicenter of his comments, in his world, stem from the movement Kaepernick started which was in direct protest to, drumroll, police brutality against African Americans. Which, coincidentally, is what a vast majority of Americans are protesting right now.

So people aren't stupid (apparently like Drew Brees is) and this heightened sense of emotion connects the dots. Even if he doesn't say it word for word, he might as well be saying "none of you should be doing this - police brutality against African Americans isn't more important than protecting the aura of "the flag", (which is supposed to uphold the rights yet conversely has become responsible for a lot of pain and suffering for a hugely important group of people in our society).

So Brees figuratively raises his hands in this "wha-did-I-do" act and issues a pointless apology. Honestly, I hope Brees never recovers from this purely because he's had more than enough slaps on the hand regarding his comments in the past (including his support of the christian radical anti-choice and anti-gay "Focus on the Family" group). Worst of all, he doesn't deserve to recover based on just being a total idiot and thinking that this of all times was a good time to exercise some raging privilege and scold all these "naughty" people for being pissed off at a government that has neglected them for over a century and doing what they can to at least feel heard (because not everyone is so fortunate to have earned 250 million dollars in their careers for playing a sport in a league that basically embodies institutionalized racism and can be interviewed on a national forum when they have an itch to scratch).

So I'm done with Drew Brees, play out the rest of your current 50 million dollar contract and hopefully the next and last time we will ever see you will be when they stick you in the HoF.

What a complete tosser.

Give me a break... I am a success , a professional who owns their own business and while I worked hard to get where I’m at, I’m under no illusions that I hit the lottery born as a white male in an upper class family. If you placed me in a different set of circumstances there is no way I achieve my current standing. I am the definition of white privilege.

Tell that to Dr Ben Carson.

Grew up in poverty and raised by a mother who only a grade three education.

He didn’t make excuses.

Studied hard and became a world famous neurosurgeon.

... oh and by the way, he is black.

This guy sums it up:

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2020/06/04/drew-brees-isnt-a-racist-thats-why-his-racism-is-a-problem/?fbclid=IwAR3kLM1uu5C6VUi7eqMlflpYJnyr7SjJeo6ZH0i0xHqJMQIs6jhPnW3gnIM

Tom Connors wrote:

Tell that to Dr Ben Carson.

Grew up in poverty and raised by a mother who only a grade three education.

He didn’t make excuses.

Studied hard and became a world famous neurosurgeon.

... oh and by the way, he is black.

Wait, what? You are contradicting yourself again.

It shouldn't need to be pointed out that an individual succeeding against the odds does not preclude\ odds from existing.

Ben Carson is the exception - there will always be exceptions ( as I said in my initial post). For every Ben Carson, there are a million plus others who will not succeed even if they have the will and the intellect. The deck is stacked

Tom Connors wrote:

But blacks who grew up in the United States and have been there for generations grow up to be thugs, drug dealers, wannabe rappers and career criminals.

Tom Connors wrote:

Tell that to Dr Ben Carson.

Grew up in poverty and raised by a mother who only a grade three education.

He didn’t make excuses.

Studied hard and became a world famous neurosurgeon.

... oh and by the way, he is black.

I think you meant to respond to yourself.

Laura Ingraham to Lebron: "Shut up and dribble"

Laura Ingraham on Brees: "He's allowed to have an opinion"

You must conform....you must conform....you must conform....so sad what we've become. Fascism, always a problem on the left, is alive and well. Sometimes it's overt, sometime in the form of their favorite social media tool, virtue signalling and shaming. This will end poorly for all.

WWRD wrote:

You must conform....you must conform....you must conform....so sad what we've become. Fascism, always a problem on the left, is alive and well. Sometimes it's overt, sometime in the form of their favorite social media tool, virtue signalling and shaming. This will end poorly for all.

What you are describing is literally the backlash Kaepernick received. “You must conform”. Was that the left telling him this?

compren wrote:

WWRD wrote:

You must conform....you must conform....you must conform....so sad what we've become. Fascism, always a problem on the left, is alive and well. Sometimes it's overt, sometime in the form of their favorite social media tool, virtue signalling and shaming. This will end poorly for all.

What you are describing is literally the backlash Kaepernick received. “You must conform”. Was that the left telling him this?

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