This is the MOST disturbing police brutality video I’ve ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Malmo, first off in court their is no such thing as “human decency.” You have to prove intent with murder. That video alone (though it doesn’t show the full story) will have a hard time proving murder. The best you will get is Manslaughter.

The Officer’s defense will come down to a reasonable level of force combined with how he was trained. Did the reasonable Officer use a reasonable level of force based on the totality of circumstances. We all have our opinions but the final answer will come in court. Also he looks like an older Officer, was his training outdated or will the Police Department state they never taught the level of force used on the individual. All of this will be answered in court.

Last thing, I haven’t read anywhere that the individual was “compliant.” He was in handcuffs which will go against the Officer.

Dude I like your running commentary a lot of the times but stick to that please. Everything is racial in America. Ask yourself if you'd rather be white or black in the exact same situation. Do you honestly think it makes no difference? Would you honestly say it doesn't matter & you'd rather be black with a run in with a white officer? Do you think this man might still be alive if he were white? Ask yourself if you think the average cop responds differently in this kind of a situation based on race whether they think about it or not. Implicit bias in ingrained in our society & in law enforcement.

It's no secret that whites/blacks smoke pot at the same rates but blacks are jailed way higher for it. Or that now that pot is legal the majority of sellers are white folks & they more/less have a monopoly on the industry with a small number of growers.

Race matters in America. In our economy. In our treatment & welfare of our citizens. We can either pretend to be blind to it or intentionally do anti-racist work to combat it.

Remember that thread on how there is no difference between being white and black?

Arriving late on the scene wrote:

What occurred that caused the chubby cop to tell the videographers that they tried to put him in the car for "like ten minutes"? How does a dude end up shirtless when being arrested for writing a bad check? When did writing bad checks turn into an instant arrest? Who still writes checks? I'm guessing there is much more to this story than meets the eye, but now another person lost their life and four have been fired and I'm sure jail time will be coming, which in essence is more lives lost.

I kept wondering why bystanders didn’t call into 911 to report the officers. Not that it would’ve done any good but there has to be done checks & balances.

Natt Turner wrote:

To me it’s worse than Rodney King and even the several videos of cops shooting unarmed black men in the back. It’s truly SICKENING!!! It stands out because you can see the life slowly leave this mans body. The victim and several bystanders begged this evil son of a b*tch cop to lift his knee off his neck. This is bad...really bad!!

Agree it's horrible and the pig should be given life, but have you ever seen this?

And the pig didn't face ANY punishment and has shown no remorse. The victim was completely innocent of anything and was obeying the pig's (contradictory) commands.

Search the video of an Arizona police officer in a hotel hallway use an AR to blast away a guy crying his eyes out and crawling on the ground as he was instructed. It’s truly horrifying.

YMMV wrote:

Agree 100%. The indifferent affect of the cop is true psychopathy at work in carrying out an execution-style murder. His idiot enabling partner needs to do time as well.

For the record, I have nothing in general against cops. My good friend is a cop and she hates them far worse than I could, since she sees the bad ones at work. In many many interactions I have not had one go bad on me.

This one is beyond the pale...straight-up murder in the street.

Couldn't agree more. Man, aren't cops supposed "To Serve and Protect"? It's more like "To Escalate and Control" which is a recipe for disaster.

To all the people saying "WhAt AbOuT wHeN BlAcK PeOpLe ArE ViOlEnT?" as some sort of..defence? excuse? for this sort of thing, the answer is ANYONE OF ANY COLOR WHO DOES THIS TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IS WRONG. THIS SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NEVER HAPPEN.

Defending the cops in this video - who at the very least were so wholly incompetent and callous that they ended up killing someone - doesn't help any argument at all. It only shows that you're biased to the point of condoning police incompetence and brutality in a misguided effort to advance your agenda.

This happens more than you think.

Oscar winning director Spike Lee put a scene like this in his movie "Do The Right Thing".

Where police choke and kill a black man while they were trying to arrest him:

https://youtu.be/7TrE6GquNKE

another George Zimmerman wrote:

Comment:

If a person can speak and say he can’t breathe, then he can breathe.

Question:

What distance are we supposed to all run and be woke on social media, like we were coerced in doing for the dude in Georgia?

Answer: you can do what you like.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

Search the video of an Arizona police officer in a hotel hallway use an AR to blast away a guy crying his eyes out and crawling on the ground as he was instructed. It’s truly horrifying.

I agree it is disgusting but in some cases I don't even blame the officers. You can only blame the law and poor training.

In that video of the guy in the hallway, the officer clearly had no idea how to apprehend the suspect. His training tells him to point the gun at the suspect at all times and never stop doing so until the man is in cuffs. He did that. He needs the suspect to be facing him so he can see what he is doing, so he did that also.

Then the bit about trying to get the suspect into cuffs whilst also pointing your two handed rifle at the suspect at all times in a narrow corridor just didn't work. The officer started shouting all kinds of ridiculous commands at a drunk man and was unable to dynamically adapt to the situation. All he knew to do was point the gun and if the man doesn't follow his exact wording then to shoot his gun. He couldn't walk around the suspect and give himself space. He just had no idea what to do.

Getting the guy to crawl then not crawl then stand up sit down... the officer was hopeless and it was poor training that lead to the suspects death.

Same with kneeling on someone's neck. Maybe the officer intended to deliberately seriously injure or kill the man.

I genuinely think it is more likely that he was too stupid to realise that kneeling on someone's neck will kill them, believed the bystanders to be idiots and thought he knew best because his training is crap.

He didn't know how to subdue a man resisting arrest, couldn't de-escalate the situation, unable to do anything but shout instructions and use force.

I genuinely believe the US would be better to hire robots at officers. All your law requires is for the officer to point a gun and shout 'comply'. Any donkey could do that job.

Unfortunately that's not how the real world works and officers have to deal with people who don't understand instructions, maybe don't speak English, are mentally incapacitated, drunk, high on drugs, shocked/injured, roided up, having emotional break downs etc etc.

So unless the suspect is another officer at police academy who follows instructions to the letter, moves at a speed which the officer trained for, uses hand movements exactly as he prepared for... the suspect is probably getting shot or injured.

I can’t get through the whole video. I just can’t. Disgusting what America has become and the turn it’s taken. And no, other countries aren’t perfect, but no other country has purported to lead the world in matters of human rights and racial justice. It’s part of the bigger decline and decay of a once great nation. No one could pay me enough to live there.

This is normal for American soldiers in Middle East.

Cue the Facebook videos put out by police departments of officers delivering bikes and hugs to young black kids all over the country.

Douglas Burke,

NO!

Both of these responses are so, so good. & I know people will chime in today with what a fraction of the protesters did yesterday or will continue to defend police & try to drum up some weak stuff about the victims but there's no reason this needs to be a partisan conversation.

We're not talking about any of this if, yet another, cop murder happens. It's incredible, with how much everything American is sensationalized, that you pro cop types cannot see how much violence there is in our law enforcement compared to other countries. There is nothing controversial about wanting to fix a system that clearly lags behind so many others. & it is not controversial to say that race matters in that broken system.

Just be honest with yourself & try to figure out if you'd rather be white or black in that situation if you don't think that race matters.

i've read a lot of posts here and no one has named a cause of death. anyone got it? what about time of death, at least relative to the events of the video, anyone got that?

to me it looked like they had to subdue the guy pretty forcefully, the reason could be that (according to one officer in the video) they 'tried that for 10 minutes'. kinda seems like people are watching a 4:00 clip and deciding a whole lot of stuff without having a complete picture.

i'll be waiting until more data is available before i start frothing at the mouth to either defend or condone anyone. maybe a whole ton of other people should think the same way lest we just go back to lynch mobs. they certainly already are running rampant digitally, why not just bring out literal pitchforks and torches any time we have 5% of a story that seems bad?