Ronald Dump wrote:
...and we bring you back to your regularly scheduled sealioning.
You are giving a video showing AA toss tools and you are shown right where to look and since it goes against everything you have stood for, instead of admitting AA actually had stolen that day, you resort to silly "sealioning" phrase?!?!?! Great Work, Ronald!
Ward Cleaver wrote:
John Macardle wrote:
You're wasting your time trying to argue with a troll that won't acknowledge the plain fact that Arbery tried to get away from the McMichaels/Roddy.
How can you keep presenting that he tried to get away when he ran right up to the guy holding the shotgun?
John, Could you PLEASE just answer this one simple question?
Ward Cleaver wrote:
Ward Cleaver wrote:
How can you keep presenting that he tried to get away when he ran right up to the guy holding the shotgun?
John, Could you PLEASE just answer this one simple question?
He tried to go to the other side of the truck. If you think that the younger McMichaels wasn't moving to that side to cut him off you're delusional. Arbery didn't switch the side of the truck he was approaching in order to come up on McMichaels back. Let's not forget the fact that there was another man in the bed of the truck who was also armed.
Ward Cleaver wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
There are millions of people who, just like you, want to place the blame on AA, but you are the only one who sees him discarding tools.
I would say there are way more siding with the McMicaels and based on what happened in Minnesota, WE ALL better hope that the family of AA has an attorney that can put them away or we may lose Atlanta plus who knows how many other cities will go crazy. Again, the reason we need transparency and all facts need to be presented to help prevent issues like what happened in Minneapolis yesterday. I know I'm not the only one that has noticed it since i read it or heard it on another site prior to me mentioning it here.
If he had done so, it would have been in the police report.
Having a guy attack a man holding a gun probably seemed like enough to mention to the McMichaels. I'm sure there is plenty that didn't make it in the police report and I'm sure if the McMichaels noticed AA flipping the tools they may have thought it was trivial compared to a shooting and may have just forgot to mention it. If AA didn't toss the tools as he approached the McMichaels, how did they get there? If you truly can't see them moving and hear them hitting the ground just pretend and speculate how that could happen?
The McMichaels and Bryan were looking right at Arbery and did not mention it. It would have supported the McMichaels's story so, for sure, they would pointed it out. I'm guessing this will come out in discovery.
Your desire to blame AA is so strong, you're seeing things that aren't there.
Everyone at my office missed it as well until I cranked the volume and pointed it out. At least two items get flipped from AA and are laying on the road caught on the "Roddie" video. They definitely are there.
Please provide want video of someone, and not one by a black M.A.G.A guy, where someone else can see Arbery dumping tools.
PLEASE get a better monitor and be honest on what you see.
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You're babbling nonsense. The AA attorney is not the prosecutor. The family could sue the McMichaels, but there is unlikely to be enough money to make it worthwhile.
Every single news outlet has the same, or better equipment than you, has undoubtedly carefully studied the video and not a single one has seen AA throwing tools. Again, can you provide a link to a single person on the planet, besides you, that sees AA chucking tools.
Have you sent your game changing analysis to the McMichaels' attorneys yet?
I'm not going to answer your disingenuously-framed question that has been explained to you over and over again, no. The answers already exist in this thread. You have proven that you aren't capable of having a productive conversation I just pipe in occasionally to try to point that out to others. You are a lost cause.
Raggedman wrote:
Ward Cleaver wrote:
John, Could you PLEASE just answer this one simple question?
Since I probably won't get an actual response from John, Thanks for responding!
He tried to go to the other side of the truck.
Why even go to the truck? Why not try and "get away" by bolting off into the woods, or behind the homes, etc.?!?!? This is what I just don't understand. Running right up to the guys that supposedly have been chasing you makes no sense! He should have been easily been able to out run those guys.
If you think that the younger McMichaels wasn't moving to that side to cut him off you're delusional. I have no problem with your thoughts on what you think TM was doing as long as you have no problem with me believing AA didn't need to get anywhere near that close if he simply would have sprinted away off road.
Arbery didn't switch the side of the truck he was approaching in order to come up on McMichaels back.
Why do you feel he switched sides of the truck to go by? Why not stop and face your accusers at that point, or sprint away before getting that close?
Let's not forget the fact that there was another man in the bed of the truck who was also armed.
Eaxactly! That is why I don't understand why he even got that close to the truck or even attempted to disarm TM.
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SDSU Aztec wrote:
You're babbling nonsense.
What is nonsensical?
The AA attorney is not the prosecutor.
What does that have to do with anything I have stated?
The family could sue the McMichaels, but there is unlikely to be enough money to make it worthwhile. What would the suit be be for?
Every single news outlet has the same, or better equipment than you,
Probably, but that doesn't mean much.
has undoubtedly carefully studied the video and not a single one has seen AA throwing tools.
Most doing the news just read the teleprompter...they are not legal detectives...sorry!
Again, can you provide a link to a single person on the planet, besides you, that sees AA chucking tools.
No, it does no good - you won't believe the source, or will come up for some other lame excuse to avoid the truth.
Have you sent your game changing analysis to the McMichaels' attorneys yet?
I'm glad you find it game changing, but if they haven't seen something so obvious then they don't deserve to be in the profession they are in.
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John Macardle wrote:
I'm not going to answer your disingenuously-framed question that has been explained to you over and over again, no. The answers already exist in this thread. You have proven that you aren't capable of having a productive conversation I just pipe in occasionally to try to point that out to others. You are a lost cause.
"disingenuously-framed question"?!?!?
My question has been explained to over and over again? Good One.
I guess it is time for you to take you your ball and go home...again.
Yep.
Ward Cleaver wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
You're babbling nonsense.
What is nonsensical?
The AA attorney is not the prosecutor.
What does that have to do with anything I have stated?
The family could sue the McMichaels, but there is unlikely to be enough money to make it worthwhile. What would the suit be be for?
Every single news outlet has the same, or better equipment than you,
Probably, but that doesn't mean much.
has undoubtedly carefully studied the video and not a single one has seen AA throwing tools.
Most doing the news just read the teleprompter...they are not legal detectives...sorry!
Again, can you provide a link to a single person on the planet, besides you, that sees AA chucking tools.
No, it does no good - you won't believe the source, or will come up for some other lame excuse to avoid the truth.
Have you sent your game changing analysis to the McMichaels' attorneys yet?
I'm glad you find it game changing, but if they haven't seen something so obvious then they don't deserve to be in the profession they are in.
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"ALL better hope that the family of AA has an attorney that can put them away or we may lose Atlanta plus who knows how many other cities will go crazy."
If you know that the family attorney is not the prosecutor, then what the hell are you talking about?
They could sue for wrongful death, just like the Browns and Goldmans did.
Yeah, the newscasters read the teleprompter, but every news outlets have tech guys that can do everything you can and more. You're not even close to being a legal detective.
I narrowed my request for a link to someone seeing AA chucking the tools, to anyone on the planet besides you.
Yeah, it's so obvious, but no one but you has seen it.
Okay Ward,
Arbery spent at least 4 minutes trying to evade the McMichaels and Bryan without running directly toward them. No one can know what was going through his mind at the time but it maybe that what he did was what he saw as his only recourse at that point.
But lets look at your solution. To turn and run through other peoples yards. Unauthorized access of another's property was what got him chased in the first place. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been shot for doing that by the owner of the property tried to escape through?
Your argument of "Why didn't he just...?" doesn't hold water and lays the blame for his death at his own door. When the fact is that the McMichaels had no reason or authority to be chasing Arbery, either armed or unarmed, in the first place.
Raggedman wrote:
Okay Ward,
Arbery spent at least 4 minutes trying to evade the McMichaels and Bryan without running directly toward them.
It should have taken him 4 seconds to evade them if he would have left the pavement. Why would he be running from them if he did nothing wrong? Why not stop and answer the McMichaels questions if he did nothing wrong? Why not call the police if he was fearing for his life? When he saw the truck in the final seconds before his death, why not then make one last attempt to evade them by leaving the roadway?
No one can know what was going through his mind at the time but it maybe that what he did was what he saw as his only recourse at that point. If that is true, that is very sad...
But lets look at your solution. To turn and run through other peoples yards. Unauthorized access of another's property was what got him chased in the first place.
If he didn't have a problem entering a home, why would he worry about cutting across someone's lawn?
Who is to say that he wouldn't have been shot for doing that by the owner of the property tried to escape through? If he took off screaming - "HELP ME, HELP ME, PLEASE HELP ME, PLEASE CALL 911, PLEASE HELP ME" - I feel he could have found someone to help him or at least bought some time. Also, shooting a moving target is harder than you think.
Your argument of "Why didn't he just...?" doesn't hold water and lays the blame for his death at his own door.
Yeah, giving logical solutions/options never makes sense when trying to blame others, right?
When the fact is that the McMichaels had no reason or authority to be chasing Arbery, either armed or unarmed, in the first place.
Again, I don't understand the laws in Georgia so I will leave that to you and the experts.
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SDSU Aztec wrote:
Ward Cleaver wrote:
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"ALL better hope that the family of AA has an attorney that can put them away or we may lose Atlanta plus who knows how many other cities will go crazy."
If you know that the family attorney is not the prosecutor, then what the hell are you talking about?
I have no idea what you are getting at with this comment?
They could sue for wrongful death, just like the Browns and Goldmans did.
Great, good luck with that!!
Yeah, the newscasters read the teleprompter, but every news outlets have tech guys that can do everything you can and more.
Okay, good to know. But the news would probably have threats and issues if they change their narrative now. Just for kicks I will call a news station and ask why they are not mentioning AA dumping the tools in the video.
You're not even close to being a legal detective.
That's for sure. When did you see me saying I was one?
I narrowed my request for a link to someone seeing AA chucking the tools, to anyone on the planet besides you.
Yeah, it's so obvious, but no one but you has seen it.
I now think you are flat out unwilling to admit what can be seen on that video in regards to AA flipping his loot away in the final seconds before attacking TM.
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Raggedman wrote:
Okay Ward,
Arbery spent at least 4 minutes trying to evade the McMichaels and Bryan without running directly toward them. No one can know what was going through his mind at the time but it maybe that what he did was what he saw as his only recourse at that point.
But lets look at your solution. To turn and run through other peoples yards. Unauthorized access of another's property was what got him chased in the first place. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been shot for doing that by the owner of the property tried to escape through?
Your argument of "Why didn't he just...?" doesn't hold water and lays the blame for his death at his own door. When the fact is that the McMichaels had no reason or authority to be chasing Arbery, either armed or unarmed, in the first place.
Basically what ward is saying is that if someone tries to kill you and you don't do everything possible to stop it, a la chuck norris, or if you make any mistake while trying to escape, the assailant cannot be accused of murder. it's basically your fault for not stopping them from killing you.
Dril wrote:
Raggedman wrote:
Okay Ward,
Arbery spent at least 4 minutes trying to evade the McMichaels and Bryan without running directly toward them. No one can know what was going through his mind at the time but it maybe that what he did was what he saw as his only recourse at that point.
But lets look at your solution. To turn and run through other peoples yards. Unauthorized access of another's property was what got him chased in the first place. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been shot for doing that by the owner of the property tried to escape through?
Your argument of "Why didn't he just...?" doesn't hold water and lays the blame for his death at his own door. When the fact is that the McMichaels had no reason or authority to be chasing Arbery, either armed or unarmed, in the first place.
Basically what ward is saying is that if someone tries to kill you and you don't do everything possible to stop it, a la chuck norris, or if you make any mistake while trying to escape, the assailant cannot be accused of murder. it's basically your fault for not stopping them from killing you.
Dril, welcome to the party!
NO! Not once have I said it was okay for the McMichaels to kill AA.
Ward Cleaver wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
"ALL better hope that the family of AA has an attorney that can put them away or we may lose Atlanta plus who knows how many other cities will go crazy."
If you know that the family attorney is not the prosecutor, then what the hell are you talking about?
I have no idea what you are getting at with this comment?
They could sue for wrongful death, just like the Browns and Goldmans did.
Great, good luck with that!!
Yeah, the newscasters read the teleprompter, but every news outlets have tech guys that can do everything you can and more.
Okay, good to know. But the news would probably have threats and issues if they change their narrative now. Just for kicks I will call a news station and ask why they are not mentioning AA dumping the tools in the video.
You're not even close to being a legal detective.
That's for sure. When did you see me saying I was one?
I narrowed my request for a link to someone seeing AA chucking the tools, to anyone on the planet besides you.
Yeah, it's so obvious, but no one but you has seen it.
I now think you are flat out unwilling to admit what can be seen on that video in regards to AA flipping his loot away in the final seconds before attacking TM.
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You ignored everything I said. What does the Arbery attorney have to do with losing Atlanta? Agian, find a link to one other person on the planet that sees AA throwing away his "loot". News outlets have not hesitated to show the videos of AA on the site, being confronted at the park or being busted shoplifting. For sure, they would zero in on AA discarding tools.
F***k your bolded responses. Step up and and link to one other person that claims to see AA unloading tools as he approached the McMichaels. Just one.
Ward Cleaver wrote:
Ronald Dump wrote:
...and we bring you back to your regularly scheduled sealioning.
You are giving a video showing AA toss tools and you are shown right where to look and since it goes against everything you have stood for, instead of admitting AA actually had stolen that day, you resort to silly "sealioning" phrase?!?!?! Great Work, Ronald!
It would be silly if you didn't fit the definition perfectly.
Indeed he does.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Ward Cleaver wrote:
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You ignored everything I said. What does the Arbery attorney have to do with losing Atlanta? Agian, find a link to one other person on the planet that sees AA throwing away his "loot". News outlets have not hesitated to show the videos of AA on the site, being confronted at the park or being busted shoplifting. For sure, they would zero in on AA discarding tools.
F***k your bolded responses. Step up and and link to one other person that claims to see AA unloading tools as he approached the McMichaels. Just one.
So.. I went back to the video I shared on here that shows AA flipping tools out on the street and read the comments relating to that video and found this:
@Reginey Wayne Arbery got shot because he fled the scene of a crime, RAN 100 YARDS towards 2 armed men whilst throwing items of evidence from his pockets then proceeded to assault a man making a citizen's arrest and committing STRONG ARMED ROBBERY by then placing his hands on Travis's gun. That's why hes dead, not because of colour it's because he was a thieving little scumbag terrorist who
What will your next excuse be?
Ward Cleaver wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
You ignored everything I said. What does the Arbery attorney have to do with losing Atlanta? Agian, find a link to one other person on the planet that sees AA throwing away his "loot". News outlets have not hesitated to show the videos of AA on the site, being confronted at the park or being busted shoplifting. For sure, they would zero in on AA discarding tools.
F***k your bolded responses. Step up and and link to one other person that claims to see AA unloading tools as he approached the McMichaels. Just one.
So.. I went back to the video I shared on here that shows AA flipping tools out on the street and read the comments relating to that video and found this:
@Reginey Wayne Arbery got shot because he fled the scene of a crime, RAN 100 YARDS towards 2 armed men whilst throwing items of evidence from his pockets then proceeded to assault a man making a citizen's arrest and committing STRONG ARMED ROBBERY by then placing his hands on Travis's gun. That's why hes dead, not because of colour it's because he was a thieving little scumbag terrorist who
What will your next excuse be?
It's not a link and the comments are filth. Is he a buddy of yours.
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