astro wrote:
If you are running 3:49 you are not clean. Sorry. This is not that hard.
Its about equivalent to a 3:28 mens time, so its pretty dumb statement
HOLY F! BLACK PAGE FOR THE YEAR. 3:49.11 WR for Faith Kipyegon!!
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...and athletes like Hull were there for 3 laps too
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NORTH LONDON IS RED wrote:
huhuh wrote:
Any video link? Thanks.
I'm sure it will be on NBC Sports soon, if not already.
I started watching on Peacock TV about 30 minutes later. Fast forwarded slow moments or events I personally have less interest in. Worth every dollar, every penny. I could have watched later, too, but was so worried I would bump into the result. If we don’t chip in some $ for the sport we say we value, we don’t value it. And we wonder why it limps along??!
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CopperRunner wrote:
Call me crazy but I’m predicting a 3:46 lifetime best.
Closing in 58 with essentially zero competition? In June? I don’t even think this will be an SB for her as crazy as that sounds.
Possibly. The pacing was not great. The world record wasn't on track until the pacers stepped off
62.37, 61.63, 61.28, 43.83
Hurta was asked to hit 2:04 and that is the exact pace she hit. The lights were set below WR pace on purpose.
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This is a legit replay direct from NBCsports for anyone having trouble with the other links/youtube
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Too good to be true? wrote:
Highly Disturbed wrote:
Now that the WR is out of her way, I hope she attempts the 15/5k double at worlds. She has tremendous potential in the 5000m.
I must be honest in that I’m a little concerned that she’s also with the Patrick Sang group. Having two significant outliers in a group like that is extremely abnormal.
Levrone, Mu???
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Reluctant Dave wrote:
astro wrote:
If you are running 3:49 you are not clean. Sorry. This is not that hard.
And the only clean ones are Tuohy and Coburn, right?
I don’t like you.
Astro—Tuohy, who could snap Kipyegon like a twig is shredding the college competition from the 1500 all the way to the 20K and XC, could very well being doping just as much as anyone else. How do you come up with your arbitrary thresholds for doping?
It’s not guilty until proven innocent, it’s the other way around—so if you have no proof, then STF⬆️43 -
According to Astro, any outlier must be doping.
All this talk of outliers, shoes, and ridiculous times has me thinking that Jim Ryun certainly must’ve been on some sort of PED, with his crappy shoes and a cinder track.62 -
I am Sam wrote:
astro wrote:
If you are running 3:49 you are not clean. Sorry. This is not that hard.
Its about equivalent to a 3:28 mens time, so its pretty dumb statement
No, it isn't. If that were so half a dozen runners would have at least equalled her time and indeed run even faster, like a female 3.47 to El G's 3.26. That differential isn't a valid comparison. She has just shown that doping control is largely window-dressing to professional running and despite all the busts nothing changes in Kenya.
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Freebirdorchestra wrote:
If exceptional performances are evidence of their own illegitimacy, than quit watching. If you have no evidence of someone's doping other than their achievements, then can it. Everyone knows what you're going to say anyway.
I've been a fan of Kipyegon for years because of her magnificent running, and the joy and professionalism she brings to her competitions. She's been nothing if not consistent over the years, hanging around in the low 3:50s, gradually chipping away each year. This run is no different from any number of Kipyegon's runs over the past few years, it just caught her on a good day, and was paced properly.
The evidence for doping is that it is right through top sport and it is almost impossible to catch the cheats. Kipyegon has once again proved that. In plain sight.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
Freebirdorchestra wrote:
If exceptional performances are evidence of their own illegitimacy, than quit watching. If you have no evidence of someone's doping other than their achievements, then can it. Everyone knows what you're going to say anyway.
I've been a fan of Kipyegon for years because of her magnificent running, and the joy and professionalism she brings to her competitions. She's been nothing if not consistent over the years, hanging around in the low 3:50s, gradually chipping away each year. This run is no different from any number of Kipyegon's runs over the past few years, it just caught her on a good day, and was paced properly.
The evidence for doping is that it is right through top sport and it is almost impossible to catch the cheats. Kipyegon has once again proved that. In plain sight.
There is a strong correlation with 800m &/or 1500m success at Olympics and World Championships with 1000m success. I know 1000m is not an event contested at Olympics or W.C., but this today was going to occur once we saw Faith K race 2:29.15 1000m. F K about three years ago raced 59.xx per lap for 2 1/2 laps. You should have known one day she was going to race 61.xx per lap for 3 3/4 laps. Faith Kipyegon is the second fastest 1000m runner, all-time.
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Thank you Faith, for making pathetic men like astro an Armstronglivs seethe.
Amazing performance!
Great race by Hull too!
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VHS wrote:
Thank you Faith, for making pathetic men like astro an Armstronglivs seethe.
Amazing performance!
Great race by Hull too!
You are probably a WWE fan, too - and think they aren't on drugs.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
VHS wrote:
Thank you Faith, for making pathetic men like astro an Armstronglivs seethe.
Amazing performance!
Great race by Hull too!
You are probably a WWE fan, too - and think they aren't on drugs.
Seethe, you pathetic homunculus.
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So a woman is now on Lovelock's heels when he won the 1500 in Berlin in wr time. Yet he and Cunningham trained hard - they thought. Something was obviously missing, that you can only get today.
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VHS wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You are probably a WWE fan, too - and think they aren't on drugs.
Seethe, you pathetic homunculus.
I love the way fans are ecstatic at the circus before their eyes. We see with certain politicians that there's no easier way to take people in than tell them what they want to believe. So it is with the spectacle of doped sport. Give the masses what they want.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
So a woman is now on Lovelock's heels when he won the 1500 in Berlin in wr time. Yet he and Cunningham trained hard - they thought. Something was obviously missing, that you can only get today.
Ahhh, the inevitable comparison with your male heroes from a long gone past.
You have to live with it, my misogynous old man. Women can run fast too.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
VHS wrote:
Seethe, you pathetic homunculus.
I love the way fans are ecstatic at the circus before their eyes. We see with certain politicians that there's no easier way to take people in than tell them what they want to believe. So it is with the spectacle of doped sport. Give the masses what they want.
The only thing you love is yourself.
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WADA has grouped T and F with body-building, weight lifting and cycling as its major doping concerns. Who is so naive as to believe the records in any those sports will be clean? We have just seen two absurd world records in T and F in the last week - Kipyegon's and Crowse's. If those records occurred in body-building, weight-lifting and cycling there would be no doubt how they were achieved. Well, WADA puts T and F in the same doping category.
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VHS wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
So a woman is now on Lovelock's heels when he won the 1500 in Berlin in wr time. Yet he and Cunningham trained hard - they thought. Something was obviously missing, that you can only get today.
Ahhh, the inevitable comparison with your male heroes from a long gone past.
You have to live with it, my misogynous old man. Women can run fast too.
But only as fast as males when they dope. Which they clearly do.
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