Is this what Mo Farah needed to start assaulting WRs?

Stagger Lee wrote:

Wtfunny wrote:

A comically ambiguous sentence.

That would at least be better than this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbxfKavcCdA

Lol, yeah, that's what sprung to my mind when I read the passage above. :)

Metric Miler wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

You got me. Obviously I wrote 7:34 because I am terribly biased against Mo Farah and want to denigrate all of his accomplishments, rather than because I overlooked an en-route indoor time that was one second faster.

I was more concerned with the 8:03 2 mile you of course knew about, but you chose to quote his slower outdoor mark as his best.

OK, again, you got me. I'm obviously horribly biased against Mo Farah. Really? You're being pedantic. Mo has a few recent PRs. His PRs are in off distances and don't indicate in any way that he is ready to take down the world records in the 3000m, 5000m, or 10000m. They also do not indicate that he has somehow improved over his five years of training with Salazar. His 2 mile PR is about equivalent on the IAAF scoring table to his 10000m. His 3000m and 5000m are worse than that. His best event, scoring-wise is his 1500m.

I've already said that he has done a great job maintaining his fitness at an age where most runners are fighting off decline. His recent PRs don't indicate that he is in better shape than he was five years ago. They also don't indicate that he is anywhere near breaking the world record.

These are simply facts. It is possible that you are right and I am wrong and Mo will soon smash all the world records. If that happens I am happy to admit that I was wrong in my assessment. I just don't see support for that thesis.

I really have no objection to or bias against Mo Farah. He is a really, really good runner who has had fabulous success. He is not fast enough to break world records, in my assessment. You are welcome to make your own assessment.

I agree, he is in no position to run a world record for any of the standard events, I have never thought he is.

I would say that his 8:03 stands as a world record for all intents and purposes, you can call it a weak one and I'll agree, but officially being known as a 'world best' doesn't take away the fact that he ran it and it was faster than everyone ever including attempts by Bekele, Haile and El G.

I do think however he has improved since 2011, especially in the endurance department, and running solid half marathons and sub 3:30 1500m's shows he is ready to best his intermediate marks, and could potentially take them down into the top 5 all time. Also my opinion.

It must be nice to know Mo Farah personally. Must be nice to have access to his training logs, get daily or weekly insight from the man personally about how his training is going, how his body is handling the training, and how motivated he is to run fast.Must also be nice to get feedback after tough workouts and even races, to get a good sense, FROM THE ATHLETE HIMSELF, how the effort felt and how much faster he thinks he could have gone or could go under ideal circumstances.you have a gut feeling based on his times and performances. that's all.And it's worthless, because you have ZERO information from him, his coaches, or his family.keep speculating

Other options wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

No.

Mo is not fast enough to run world records. This will not change that fact.

Based on his 3:28 I would argue in fact he is fast enough. It may be that he does not possess the required speed endurance.

Personally I do think he is capable of 12:35-12:40 at his absolute best. That point may have passed as he is now 33. But his peak is so close to the world record he would have to have the most perfect race of his life to beat it by even .1.

I'd say, in my opinion (if that is allowed), that speculation is OK. It isn't using made up figures to calculate to 2 hundredths of a second the times an athlete 'should' have 'intrinsically' run, and then presenting those results as facts. We shouldn't discourage discussion on this forum.

Obviously people who are afraid of speculation should flee letsrun and go back to hiding in their parents' basement...

Oh ok

Based on the fact that Kam is in the pic now . He is front runner , Mo has no choice but to hang on 2 him ...If Mo end up running the 10k @ pre classic

You rest assure he will run a very fast time

Geoffrey knows his only chance of beating Farah in the 10k is to make it a hard race. If they both run at Pre then yes, a fast time will most likely happen. I also expect the 10k Olympic record to go down (27:01) as Kamworor will try the same tactics as in Beijing for sure, but make the pace hot even earlier to try and shake Mo. I wouldn't be surprised to see a team Kenyan assault to make the first 2km under 5:20.

moe is one of the fastest 1500 guys ever.

his losses are at half marathon and up, or cross where there is bad footing.

he's got equivalent aerobic capacity to the worlds best at 5 and 10k.

so it is no surprise that moe can waste them all with his speed at the end of a 3 to 10k race.

it looks like moe's best distance is 3 or 4 k.

the time to attack the 3k record is when he is in 328 shape.

with 3 pacers, rupp, and a couple of africans.

moe could do 58-59-60 laps all the way to 2k and then if it's his day, the record would be on.

all of which is all pretty much self evident.

the 5k record is tough without the super juice. i'm thinking moe has a shot, but its not as likely as the 3k. i see moe getting soft at 4k and losing 4 seconds to the record thereafter.

Longjack, have you ever longjacked off with ventolin3?

I must say also, you are not correct about the IAAF scoring tables. 8:03.4 indoors is equal to 12:37.5 and 26:19 according to the tables, making 2 miles by far his best event.

I wouldn't use the IAAF scoring tables really.

You guys are missing the point! It's not about whether he's fast enough right now, it's about whether this loss motivates him to train at unpresidented levels! Last time he just needed push-ups to become a world beater... what if he starts benching?

'has concomitant good enough endurance to hold on for < 7'20'

When he went for the 2 miles record he could only manage 7:30 pace.

Yes thats what I mean if both of them run Pre classic

Kam already said he will and I thought Mo was also running but someone said Mo is running the 5k this year

tony the tiger wrote:

Yes thats what I mean if both of them run Pre classic

Kam already said he will and I thought Mo was also running but someone said Mo is running the 5k this year

It is not clear what race Farah is doing at Pre from his interview post Cardiff. He seems to be implying he will run the 10k but he doesn't explicitly mention the 10k, and especially not the 5k.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'has concomitant good enough endurance to hold on for < 7'20'

When he went for the 2 miles record he could only manage 7:30 pace.

This winter Mo ran on a treadmill.

Treadmills are ruining the running form.

Will be surprising to see good results from that.

I saw the Diamond League calendar and haven't seen the 10km listen in any of the 14 meetings. Maybe they upgrade the schedule?

The Eugene Meeting is part of the Diamond League or am I wrong?

That is also what I got from Mo's interview in Cardiff , you are rite he didn't mention the 10k but from the tone you can gather he was talking about the 10k..