This is probably a dumb question but is bike pacing illegal for WR purposes? I keep seeing the guy behind him and thinking "buddy, get out your Garmin and help him out."
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and a long way to go alone (>62 F !).
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Hardloper wrote:
interesting.... wrote:
they are now saying there is a discrepancy between the on course clocks and the one shown the broadcast
The one on the broadcast matches up with the official splits, the one on the car seems to be wrong
good lord, this whole thing is as staged as the moon landing.
Green screen, treadmill....blah blah blah....sooooo obvious.
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So is he really not wearing the 4% shoes? I thought someone was joking about that. That is unbelievable. Nike's whole marketing is these shoes are better than other shoes. All the studies have seemed to support that and yet he's not wearing them? Can someone make one post explaining the shoes?
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arte wrote:
Boit is done, he did his part well.
He has run the race, he has kept the faith.
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chaserofsteeples wrote:
Finnjavel wrote:
I'd really like to know if the time on the car is correct or the clock on the tv.
I think the one on the TV is correct - came through the half in the same split as the tracking app.
Yeah, that's going to be a problem, because I think Kipchoge sees that time in front of him on the lead van.
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Finnjavel wrote:
I'd really like to know if the time on the car is correct or the clock on the tv.
Splits have been in sync with tv clock not the car. Car is about 9-10 seconds behind the tv clock.
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wejo wrote:
So is he really not wearing the 4% shoes? I thought someone was joking about that. That is unbelievable. Nike's whole marketing is these shoes are better than other shoes. All the studies have seemed to support that and yet he's not wearing them? Can someone make one post explaining the shoes?
Didn´t you read what I just wrote. It´s a Vaporfly with a modified midsole.
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three pace cars on my screen now....all three different times
wtf
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Kipchoge is still moving fast, but am I maybe sensing a bit of side-to-side in his arm motion? Maybe the first signs of getting tired? 1hr 21 mins in.
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is kipchoge wearing a gps watch so he can know the correct time?
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Cherono & Aga go past Dibbaba! Kip still on low 2:02 pace
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wejo wrote:
Can someone make one post explaining the shoes?
they're not better, nike was lying.
now here's a better question, why is the clock on the german broadcast 9 seconds ahead of the clock on the pace car? Which one is right?
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The splits on the broadcoast compare Kipchoge to even WR splits, don't they? Compared to the ghost of Kimetto, Kipchoge's doing better so far: he was 41s up at the half, and 44s at 25km.
BUT, it'll be interesting to see how that gap develops after 25km, considering:
a) Kipchose lost the last pacer at 25km
b) It's getting hotter..
c) Kimetto turned on the afterburners at 30km, dropping a 14:10 5km
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Bad Wigins wrote:
wejo wrote:
Can someone make one post explaining the shoes?
they're not better, nike was lying.
now here's a better question, why is the clock on the german broadcast 9 seconds ahead of the clock on the pace car? Which one is right?
The one on the broadcast is correct. Pay attention.
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asdgadasdf wrote:
Kipchoge is still moving fast, but am I maybe sensing a bit of side-to-side in his arm motion? Maybe the first signs of getting tired? 1hr 21 mins in.
Ok it must have been temporary, he's looking good again.
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Defending champ Gladys Cherono has taken over the lead in the women's race. She hits 25k in 1:21:52 (2:18:10 pace). Last year's runner-up Ruti Aga is second, 2 seconds behind, with Dibaba in third, three seconds back of Cherono.
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kmaclam wrote:
and last temp I got was 62, still not much wind, but humidity almost 70%, hard to believe with so much sun and being late in the morning there, you'd think humidity 'burned off'
Humidity doesn't mean much.
I'll share part of Malmo's email now.
malmo wrote:
Yes, temperature is important, but as I’ve harped on many times, all temperature isn’t the same. Temperature isn’t fungible data. The most clear evidence of this is the humidity, which should always be expressed as Dew Point. Relative Humidity is a mere curiosity. Some of the best races ever run were during high relative humidity. The operative wording here is RELATIVE!.
Temperature in an overhead sun is much different than the same temperature when the Sun is at a lower altitude (position in the sky relative to the horizon. An important note is that temperature is measured in the shade, which is rarely the same as the temperature that is on the track. It’s the on the track temperatures under a bright Sun that does the damage. The Dual in the Sun in 1982, was actually a very cool day, the high was only 70°, yet by the end of the race, the apparent ground level heat, made it fell hot, when it wasn’t. Also, note that many of those races were in Europe at higher latitudes, where the Sun always has a low altitude, relative to the horizon. Think Oslo, Stockholm, London Berlin. A good exercise would be to go to a world map and compare the latitudes of European cities to cities in North America.
The then went on to talk about how the 2010 5k in Doha where a couple guys ran 12:51 in 94 degrees.
Here is what he wrote about that.
malmo wrote:
The 5000m went off at 8:35pm. The temperature was about 94, the DEW POINT was 54. In other words it was ideal for running fast. The physiological benefits of a higher energy without negative barrier to heat dissipation.
I think that "It's the weather stupid” simplifies a complex subject. A more accurate description is “It’s the kind of weather, stupid.”
The good news is the dewpoint in Berlin right now is still 50. The problem to me is the sun. Come on clouds!!
But here are the weather conditions of nearly all fast track races ever run.
https://trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/showthread.php?123459-Ideal-weather-for-top-performances00 -
Bad Wigins wrote:
now here's a better question, why is the clock on the german broadcast 9 seconds ahead of the clock on the pace car? Which one is right?
Maybe because it's by Polar? I love my Polar watch but it takes like 2 minutes to find GPS.
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erzef wrote:
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Paquet, Amaury (BEL)
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This has to be an error?
Looks as if he PRed in the half and will just cool down now
Half 01:03:44 03:00
25 km 01:17:56 03:39
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