BREAKING: Gwen Jorgensen to run 2018 Chicago Marathon

Her 15:15 5K earlier this year indicated about 2:28:30 potential. If she's now committed to racing in about a month and a half, after all her training with Flanagan and Cragg, I am predicting 2:24:55 at Chicago.

Not really that amazing. She was an Olympic distance triathlete. So she was competing in a time of two hours plus or minus on average.. Of which less than a 1/3 was running. For tri her training would have been considered more speed orientated than strength based. This translates to 5k/10k type speed. Hence her early impressive results at those distances.

On another note... is anyone else worried about her upperbody form? She holds her shoulders extremely high which looks really uncomfortable.

Amazingly coming from triathlon, she seems to be better at the shorter stuff. However, I'm going to go with low 2:30s - sub 2:30 would show real potential at this stage.[/quote]

Then != than

mwebsters wrote:

Then != than

What's the difference?

Well, a 1:10 half supposedly converts to a 2:26 full. The marathon is a tricky distance and it's tough to run your potential, so I'd adjust the time a little slower, but since some time has gone by she's probably fitter than she was when she ran 1:10, so I'll adjust it faster again, and I'm going to guess 2:26.

But I do think anything under 2:30 would be good progress.

aeawsdfasdg wrote:

But I do think anything under 2:30 would be good progress.

agree-she should be able to do a 2:27-2:28-anything faster would be a surprise though, given that it is her 1st marathon with significant run-dominant training....hard to take into account those summer 10k times since she was probably still adjusting to training loads along with having a one year-old in the house!

mwebsters wrote:

Then != than

Oops...

aeawsdfasdg wrote:

Well, a 1:10 half supposedly converts to a 2:26 full. The marathon is a tricky distance and it's tough to run your potential, so I'd adjust the time a little slower, but since some time has gone by she's probably fitter than she was when she ran 1:10, so I'll adjust it faster again, and I'm going to guess 2:26.

No way, only runners built for the marathon can run their half PR x 2 + 4-6 min (think Desi, Jordan). Gwen is not made for the marathon. She'll be lucky to break 2:30.

Well she didn't run 1:10, and 1:10 does not convert to 2:26

Glad to hear it. Gwen is great for the sport.

Realistic Ralph wrote:

If she runs 2:17 then she won't sound foolish talking about a Gold Medal

If she runs 2:22 she has a strong chance of making the U.S. team.

If she runs 2:26 then she will need a minor miracle to make the team.

Do not be fooled by what Hasay or Cragg run because they are both injured. They will both be back by the trials.

Hasay and Cragg are injured? Sources?

another runner wrote:

Yep, she is built for the 5000, the marathon should not be her focus

Alright, let's hear it. Why is she built for the 5000? lol

You probably also love those archaic unwritten baseball rules.

I post a ton on Gwen Jorgensen threads and I don't even really know why. I have this need to defend her. She's probably going to run 2:28. She'll get annihilated on the boards, but it would be a huge improvement from her previous PR. You guys act like it's easy for her to hike her miles up from like 45-90 without any sort of hiccups or even tired legs. While she comes from an endurance background, running features a certain pounding on the legs unlike any other sport. She's human like the rest of us. In fact, to this date I don't think she's run much over 85-90 miles a week. Obviously I'm not there every day but that is what I've most recently heard. She wants to get up to handle what Shalane can handle eventually and she'll need to to compete with the world's best. She has two years to adjust to the training. This stuff doesn't happen overnight.

Oh and she was better at the 5k stuff previously because she was fresher then and doing much less mileage. It's pretty typical for this to happen.

Then = sequential

Than = comparison

It’s better to run 10 miles THEN to go o to sleep.

It’s better to run 10 miles THAN it is to go to sleep.

HahaRiiiiiiight wrote:

Not sure why no one is talking about Parker Stinson on the men's side? He's probably the only American in the field - other than Rupp - with a shot at 2:10 or better. What he did at CIM was more impressive than Ritchie winning in 2:11 or McCandless' 2:12.

But Stinson's approach could come back to bite him - he may try to hang with Galen and Mo for 20 miles then die another slow death to the finish....

Because this thread is about Gwen Jorgenson, did you not read the title?

Sub 2:30 in Chicago wrote:

not a marathoner. wrote:

2:31. She's not cut out for the marathon.

She should pace at sub 2:30. If she doesn’t than maybe she isn’t a marathoner but too early to say with so little under her belt.

If all goes well, I predict between 2:26 and 2:29. A very respectable “debut”.

Pace under 2:30 and if she negative splits than she has a decent chance at making the team in 2020.

On a side note, I still think Hasay is a one year wonder. She should have saved herself for a great race in 2020 instead of trying for too much too soon. Alberto will burn her out like Cain. Regardless, I hope she proves me wrong and she still has lots in the tank.

What is the status with Hasay? She is entered in Chicago, but when was her last race? Can she race Chicago without having raced for ~7 months?

running commenter wrote:

another runner wrote:

Yep, she is built for the 5000, the marathon should not be her focus

Alright, let's hear it. Why is she built for the 5000? lol

Because her best result to date has been a 15:15 5k indoor that she ran at the beginning of the year. I'm not sure how seeing as you'd assume she's gotten fitter, but that's it.