Augustine Choge is making his marathon debut in Chicago -- who is the fastest marathoner who has broken 1:45 in the 800?

Oh Please wrote:

I was expecting Bad Wiggins to be posting in here.

This run will be interesting, because right now I think I'd consider Mo Farah as the "Range King." He's run 3:28x2 and a 2:06 marathon. I think that's very hard to argue.

Seems to me a 208 and the sub 145 might be enough to convince me, which is admittedly worth absolutely nothing.

If Choge stays healthy next months he’ll be top five in Chicago. Possibly higher. Still an incredible athlete. Got injured after Portland 3000indoors 2016 otherwise most likely would have been a contender 10,000 in Rio.

Montego wrote:

Not sure, but maybe Rod Dixon.

IAAF database has Dixon's 800 best as 1:47.6.

It is the same guy yes, the one who also has the 3:30:07.

Now he is a coach and one of his junior athletes has run 3:47 in the 1500m. Sadly not in time to make the world championship.

He is an amazing person, really down to earth guy and is a sport icon in my country.

Is he the guy who Kipchoge said was the star of the future ? That will make Chicago something to look forward to now that WR attempts can pretty much be put on the backburner !

said88 wrote:

not a steepler. wrote:

hardloper, I was pretty certain that the rui silva of 1500 fame and the rui silva of marathon note were two diff guys? maybe i'm mistaken but I recall threads about this that (to my recollection) clarified they were def diff dudes

There are two different portugues Rui Silva', yes. But the world class 1500m guy also has run a very fast Marathon:

https://www.letsrun.com/photos/2013/berlin-marathon-kipsang-world-record/imagepages/image18.php

Interesting. So Rui Silva is the only guy that has done this and ran a fast marathon. This would be the guy with the greatest range in my book.

Rui Silva range (from IAAF):

800 Metres 1:44.91 San Sebastián (ESP) 20 AUG 2002

1000 Metres 2:16.30 Nice (FRA) 17 JUL 1999

1500 Metres 3:30.07 Monaco (MON) 19 JUL 2002

One Mile 3:49.50 Roma (ITA) 12 JUL 2002

2000 Metres 4:54.66 Berlin (GER) 07 SEP 1999

3000 Metres 7:46.41 Istanbul (TUR) 20 JUN 2004

5000 Metres 13:19.20 Bergen (NOR) 11 JUN 2004

10,000 Metres 27:53.55 Pontevedra (ESP) 02 APR 2011

3000 Metres Steeplechase 8:58.72 Maia (POR) 06 JUL 2002

10 Kilometres 28:34 Madrid (ESP) 31 DEC 2003

10 Kilometres 28:07 Madrid (ESP) 31 DEC 2005

10 Miles Road 48:47 Portsmouth (GBR) 28 OCT 2012

Half Marathon 1:02:40 Lisboa (POR) 25 MAR 2012

Marathon 2:12:16 Berlin (GER) 29 SEP 2013

Well, Mo has a 2:06 marathon and a 3:28 high. It's a bit more impressive. Could have ran 1:44 for sure too.

Rockstar Games wrote:

Well, Mo has a 2:06 marathon and a 3:28 high. It's a bit more impressive. Could have run 1:44 for sure too.

I have significant respect for what Mohammed Farah has accomplished; no on Farah ever having sub-1:45 800m skills. No way Farah was ever capable of sub-1:46 800m. There is a reason Farah, 11th fastest 1500m runner, all-time never raced 1500m in W.C. or Olympics. Farah looked fast over final 700m versus 5000m/10000m runners. If Farah ever thought he had enough raw 200m speed to race jog & sprints in 1500m heats, Farah would have specialized in 1500m.

Oh Please wrote:

I was expecting Bad Wiggins to be posting in here.

Everyone now agrees that Choge is range GOAT. My work is done.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

I was expecting Bad Wiggins to be posting in here.

Everyone now agrees that Choge is range GOAT. My work is done.

What happens if Mo runs 2:04 and Choge can't break 2:12?

Subway Surfers wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Everyone now agrees that Choge is range GOAT. My work is done.

What happens if Mo runs 2:04 and Choge can't break 2:12?

Choge:

Outdoor:

DISCIPLINE PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE RECORDS

800 Metres 1:44.86 Ostrava (CZE) 17 JUN 2009

1500 Metres 3:29.47 Berlin (GER) 14 JUN 2009

One Mile 3:50.01 London (GBR) 27 JUL 2013

3000 Metres 7:28.76 Doha (QAT) 06 MAY 2011

5000 Metres 12:53.66 Roma (ITA) 08 JUL 2005

10,000 Metres 28:22.8h Nairobi (KEN) 22 APR 2016

5 Kilometres 13:22 Carlsbad, CA (USA) 30 MAR 2014

10 Kilometres 28:55 Tübingen (GER) 15 SEP 2013

Half Marathon 59:26 Ras Al Khaimah (UAE) 10 FEB 2017

Indoor:

1000 Metres 2:17.79 Praha (CZE) 26 FEB 2009

1500 Metres 3:33.23 Birmingham (GBR) 19 FEB 2011

2000 Metres 4:56.30 Aubiére (FRA) 09 FEB 2007

3000 Metres 7:28.00 Stuttgart (GER) 05 FEB 2011

Farah:

Outdoor:

800 Metres 1:48.24 Lugano (SUI) 04 JUL 2008

1500 Metres 3:28.81 Monaco (MON) 19 JUL 2013 AR

One Mile 3:56.49 London (GBR) 06 AUG 2005

2000 Metres 5:06.34 Melbourne (AUS) 09 MAR 2006

3000 Metres 7:32.62 Birmingham (GBR) 05 JUN 2016

Two Miles 8:07.85 Birmingham (GBR) 24 AUG 2014 ABP

5000 Metres 12:53.11 Monaco (MON) 22 JUL 2011

10,000 Metres 26:46.57 Eugene, OR (USA) 03 JUN 2011 AR

2000 Metres Steeplechase 5:55.72 Watford (GBR) 27 MAY 2000

5 Kilometres 13:30 Stranorlar (IRL) 26 DEC 2006

10 Kilometres 27:44 London (GBR) 31 MAY 2010 AR

15 Kilometres 42:03 Cardiff (GBR) 26 MAR 2016 AR

10 Miles Road 46:25 Portsmouth (GBR) 25 OCT 2009

20 Kilometres 56:27 Lisboa (POR) 22 MAR 2015 AR

Half Marathon 59:32 Lisboa (POR) 22 MAR 2015 AR

Half Marathon 59:22 South Shields (GBR) 13 SEP 2015

Marathon 2:06:21 London (GBR) 22 APR 2018

Indoor:

1500 Metres 3:39.03 Glasgow (GBR) 28 JAN 2012

One Mile 3:57.92 Boston, MA (USA) 04 FEB 2012

3000 Metres 7:34.47 Birmingham (GBR) 21 FEB 2009

Two Miles 8:03.40 Birmingham (GBR) 21 FEB 2015 WBP, ABP

5000 Metres 13:09.16 Birmingham (GBR) 18 FEB 2017 AR

Choge matches Mo all the way through the intermediate distances with equal PRs at 5000m and half marathon.

Choge all the way....he is worth a 2:08 or better in his first full marathon

Ian Stewart claims that he has clocked Mo in an 800m time trial at 1:45

But wait, Choge contradicts your moronic "tall Kenyan" theory - how can he be the range GOAT at a mere 5'4"?

Bad Wigins wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

I was expecting Bad Wiggins to be posting in here.

Everyone now agrees that Choge is range GOAT. My work is done.