Julien Wanders: "I don't care about being the fastest non-African HM runner"

Go cry me a river.

ex-runner wrote:

He said he wants to be the best in the world, was unaware he was the fastest non-African over 13.1 miles and didn't care that he was as his aim is to be the best.

That is the right attitude. The one that LRC should be promoting.

"fastest non-African" means fasts non-doper, which is an important distinction

John Utah wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

He said he wants to be the best in the world, was unaware he was the fastest non-African over 13.1 miles and didn't care that he was as his aim is to be the best.

That is the right attitude. The one that LRC should be promoting.

"fastest non-African" means fasts non-doper, which is an important distinction

Lol. Sure, simpleton.

If a west African/someone of west African decent ran a 2:09 marathon, I'm pretty sure the same people would be making the same type of threads.

Politically correct Euros putting too much pressure on themselves.

You can race Greyhounds and German Shephards and claim that the fastest German Shephards can and need to get as fast as the fastest Greyhounds. Won't happen. They are born with different bodies and that's how things are.

Likewise, East Africans and Euros have different bodies.

Race a bunch of Nilotes, Polynesians, Eskimos, African Pygmies and Papuans with each other. Some will be built for it, some won't.

Nuff said.

Honestly man, can it. That's racist. Some of y'all just say whatever you want on here because there are no repercussions.

There's no sound logic that reaches a conclusion that all elite east African guys are dirty but guys like Jager, Centro, Wanders, or whoever aren't. Wanders trains almost entirely with east African guys which makes him just as likely to be a doper.

Bro, he wants you to call him a racist. You're just feeding the dumb troll.

He can be a troll, racist or not. I'm going to call a spade a spade.

mcvred wrote:

Honestly man, can it. That's racist. Some of y'all just say whatever you want on here because there are no repercussions.

There's no sound logic that reaches a conclusion that all elite east African guys are dirty but guys like Jager, Centro, Wanders, or whoever aren't. Wanders trains almost entirely with east African guys which makes him just as likely to be a doper.

How is it racist? If the best US race walkers went to Russia or hired Russian coaches, there would be the same doping accusations. But because Russians are Slavic, I guess it is not racist to talk about Russian doping? If a US cyclist went to Italy for "medical" help, I would be pretty sure that cyclist is doing something dirty. But I guess since Italians are white, it is ok to talk about it? Every time people start talking about the Flying Finns of the 70s to 80s, there is doping accusations. But I guess that is ok, since Finnish are white. Give me a f-cking break.

Do you read my posts, or do you have a pre-typed red herring all ready that you just copy paste into your response?

That's nice but he was specifically targeting the European record and knew he broke that

Hardloper wrote:

That's nice but he was specifically targeting the European record and knew he broke that

Point? European record was held by an African born runner. Wanders says it makes no difference to him whether runners are African or not, he wants to be the best.

And to the poster who says non-African means non-doper, Wanders trains and lives in Iten for most of the year.

how is it racist? wrote:

Every time people start talking about the Flying Finns of the 70s to 80s, there is doping accusations. But I guess that is ok, since Finnish are white. Give me a f-cking break.

Finnish people are genetically very different from other Europeans. They are more like Central Asians - yes, this is a scientific fact that's been demonstrated by modern geneticists and anthropologists. Historically they were nomadic hunters and herders like the Kalenjin and Oromo.

Coincidence that people from different corners of the world, who historically chased cows and reindeer around all day so they can have enough livestock to marry girls and produce offspring, also make fast runners? I think not.

Justyn Knight isn't a marathoner, but his prowess in distance running shows that it's entirely possible for distance GOATs of West African heritage to emerge. (Knight is Barbadian on his father's side, and Jamaican on his mother's side.)

Is no one going to bring up how he trains entirely in east Africa. One poster mentioned it but it seemed to be ignored. He is just as dirty as any of the other east Africans he trains with. Just like the Robertsons and Sondre Moen.

JulienWanders wrote:

Is no one going to bring up how he trains entirely in east Africa. One poster mentioned it but it seemed to be ignored. He is just as dirty as any of the other east Africans he trains with. Just like the Robertsons and Sondre Moen.

Do your homework before you say he trains entirely in Africa. He spends a great chunk of time in St. Moritz too.

ex-runner wrote:

He said he wants to be the best in the world, was unaware he was the fastest non-African over 13.1 miles and didn't care that he was as his aim is to be the best.

That is the right attitude. The one that LRC should be promoting.

Based

Yes, but when he is training in Switzerland, his training partners are still mostly from the NN group.

https://instagram.com/julien_wanders?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=1cmk5d4zaom8k

I've been critical of some runners on social media, but it is a great way to gain information about their training situation/location/partners.

FlyingFast wrote:

Justyn Knight isn't a marathoner, but his prowess in distance running shows that it's entirely possible for distance GOATs of West African heritage to emerge. (Knight is Barbadian on his father's side, and Jamaican on his mother's side.)

Just based off of looks, I would guess Knight is about 30-40 percent European(average black person in America is about 20-25 percent European). Me personally, based off of all the American half white/half black 800m runners(like half of the top 25 American 800m times come from African Americans who also have a good percentage of European genetics), I believe this group (about half European and half west African. Not politically correct to say, but this hybridization I believe can create the best distance runners as far as genetics are concerned.) are one of the most untouched groups with the most potential/talent. We need to do more to get this population into distance running.