USATF Club XC Spokane - Ritz, Centro, Biwott, Bates, Mackey

Lack of inside info wrote:

The funniest part of this thread is how ignorant this board is when it comes to elite running. Probably started by one of the ignorant guys that didn’t know Brogan Austin.

Not one of the names in this headline will finish in the top 5.

Tinman will win easily with George Parsons winning the individual title. Please start following the elite portion of the sport.

LaMere and Mahalsky top 8. Book it Dano!

I am not doubting LaMere or Mahalsky but Bates and Biwott and Centro is ridiculous. Ritz and Mackey are highly unlikely.

Tinman Elite Men and Hansons Women should be the headliners for this TEAM event.

Feel sorry 4 u Steph

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I'll be there, but not racing (too slow/injured). I'm a member of Team Red Lizard and Bowerman, so will be cheering for both. Bowerman has the best shot at (women's) team placing. Also rooting for fellow Portland team JBAC.

P.S. Don't tase me bro.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2263701

Just my humble opinion:

We need more team cross-country races- like a circuit in the fall.

Cross is more conducive to spectators with loops around a park/golf course.

It is a team sport- the 5th runner is important no matter what place he's in.

All the discussions about how to make the sport popular- this seems like a good start.

We just need the money to make it worthwhile for the pros.

Then make Club Cross and/or US XC Champs based on a qualifier meet system like NCAA, high school, or JO. A state or association championship to qualify for the regional meet which selects qualifiers for nationals. When anyone and everyone can just sign up for nationals and race, there's little incentive to engage in other xc races except as a tune-up. Yes, money helps, but people will be more apt to support something that resembles an organized sport and rewarding development. Spending on a circuit just for the sake of having a circuit is money down the toilet.

Any desire cross runners have for spectators is negated by the desire for masochistic conditions. These championships are always straight-up nasty.

Sounds like your odds are good, jamin. Hope you click with one of the other 469 dudes.

jamin wrote:

Clubs wrote:

Not many women's teams entered.

Yea, a sausagefest. 470 dudes and 292 chicks.

Lack of inside info wrote:

The funniest part of this thread is how ignorant this board is when it comes to elite running. Probably started by one of the ignorant guys that didn’t know Brogan Austin.

Not one of the names in this headline will finish in the top 5.

Tinman will win easily with George Parsons winning the individual title. Please start following the elite portion of the sport.

I do follow the elite portion of the sport, which is why I do not care about USA Club XC. On the Men's side, Ritz is the only one that was truly elite at XC and longer. Centro is elite but for shorter distances. The rest are just runners a lot faster than me but not competitive at world XC.

Oh Please wrote:

Lack of inside info wrote:

The funniest part of this thread is how ignorant this board is when it comes to elite running. Probably started by one of the ignorant guys that didn’t know Brogan Austin.

Not one of the names in this headline will finish in the top 5.

Tinman will win easily with George Parsons winning the individual title. Please start following the elite portion of the sport.

I do follow the elite portion of the sport, which is why I do not care about USA Club XC. On the Men's side, Ritz is the only one that was truly elite at XC and longer. Centro is elite but for shorter distances. The rest are just runners a lot faster than me but not competitive at world XC.

Beat me to it. No int'l elite distance guys in the field. All that misguided anger...sheesh...

The Skeptic wrote:

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I'll be there, but not racing (too slow/injured). I'm a member of Team Red Lizard and Bowerman, so will be cheering for both. Bowerman has the best shot at (women's) team placing. Also rooting for fellow Portland team JBAC.

P.S. Don't tase me bro.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2263701

How/why are you a member of 2 local clubs? Pretty sure you can't do that according to USATF rules. Plus it's kinda crappy.

How? I'm a recreational runner and I'm not competing in USATF events. On the rare occasion that I do, I run for the Red Lizards because that's who I'm under for USATF.

Why? Opportunity. I live in Portland and run with friends in multiple clubs, many of whom also belong to more than one club. I'm technically a member of 3 in the area and occasionally run with 3 others.

Brilliant Post. Let me get this straight.

There won’t be any INTERNATIONAL TALENT at US Clubs.

That is newsworthy.

In similar news there will be no COLLEGIATE TALENT competing at the Footlocker High School Championships.

Not sure why I waste time educating this ignorant board.

Tinman in a blowout.

Lack of inside info wrote:

I am not doubting LaMere or Mahalsky but Bates and Biwott and Centro is ridiculous. Ritz and Mackey are highly unlikely.

Tinman Elite Men and Hansons Women should be the headliners for this TEAM event.

Nope, I didn't take it that way friend. I was simply putting the names out there of 2 young hard working and capable runners who on the right day could both be in the top 5. I agree, the Hanson's women should do very well and I look forward to watching the coverage.

runn wrote:

Just my humble opinion:

We need more team cross-country races- like a circuit in the fall.

Cross is more conducive to spectators with loops around a park/golf course.

It is a team sport- the 5th runner is important no matter what place he's in.

All the discussions about how to make the sport popular- this seems like a good start.

We just need the money to make it worthwhile for the pros.

I wish I had the money, seriously. I'd love to put on a bunch of races in the Fall. I promised my wife if I hit the lotto, that's one of my "I"m doing this because I can afford to" things. If I had the money I'd make it worth their while to race. Good idea friend, I wish it would come to fruition one day.

Hawaii Five-O wrote:

I wish I had the money, seriously. I'd love to put on a bunch of races in the Fall. I promised my wife if I hit the lotto, that's one of my "I"m doing this because I can afford to" things. If I had the money I'd make it worth their while to race. Good idea friend, I wish it would come to fruition one day.

Same.

I've been scouting big old farms and barns for a dream XC course for years. When club nats is held on an epic course that no one has ever heard of and the awards ceremony is in a dilapidated barn that surprises everyone with its indoor track you'll know that Troll-y Roller has hit the big time.

Hawaii Five-O wrote:

Lack of inside info wrote:

I am not doubting LaMere or Mahalsky but Bates and Biwott and Centro is ridiculous. Ritz and Mackey are highly unlikely.

Tinman Elite Men and Hansons Women should be the headliners for this TEAM event.

Nope, I didn't take it that way friend. I was simply putting the names out there of 2 young hard working and capable runners who on the right day could both be in the top 5. I agree, the Hanson's women should do very well and I look forward to watching the coverage.

Hell, I think either could win if they're on! Heath is not what he was 3 years ago. LaMere or Mahalsky for the victory!

Clubs wrote:

Club XC is Saturday in Spokane. Some big names are entered in the Men's race including Ritz, Centro Biwott, and Jamin. Not as many big names in the women's race but Emma Bates be be going for back to back wins.

Team race includes Brooks Beasts, Hansons, Tinman for men. Not many women's teams entered.

Who you got?

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2018/USATF-National-Club-Cross-Country/Status-of-Entries.aspx

Never mind that nonsense. Who’s Jarod Word?

Troll-y Roller wrote:

Hawaii Five-O wrote:

I wish I had the money, seriously. I'd love to put on a bunch of races in the Fall. I promised my wife if I hit the lotto, that's one of my "I"m doing this because I can afford to" things. If I had the money I'd make it worth their while to race. Good idea friend, I wish it would come to fruition one day.

Same.

I've been scouting big old farms and barns for a dream XC course for years. When club nats is held on an epic course that no one has ever heard of and the awards ceremony is in a dilapidated barn that surprises everyone with its indoor track you'll know that Troll-y Roller has hit the big time.

The Red Lizards put on a cross country series every fall in Portland. If you have a running club near you, you should look into working together to create meets. Our races are typically at local parks, though one of our former members had a farm as well. You just have to get a permit for the parks. One of our members owns a timing company and volunteers, so that helps a ton with cost. Other than that it's run on, membership fees, donations and volunteers.

Lack of inside info wrote:

Brilliant Post. Let me get this straight.

There won’t be any INTERNATIONAL TALENT at US Clubs.

That is newsworthy.

In similar news there will be no COLLEGIATE TALENT competing at the Footlocker High School Championships.

Not sure why I waste time educating this ignorant board.

Tinman in a blowout.

It is probable that the person meant “international talent” as in runners who are competitive on the international stage. Granted, they didn’t make that very clear.

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

Troll-y Roller wrote:

Same.

I've been scouting big old farms and barns for a dream XC course for years. When club nats is held on an epic course that no one has ever heard of and the awards ceremony is in a dilapidated barn that surprises everyone with its indoor track you'll know that Troll-y Roller has hit the big time.

The Red Lizards put on a cross country series every fall in Portland. If you have a running club near you, you should look into working together to create meets. Our races are typically at local parks, though one of our former members had a farm as well. You just have to get a permit for the parks. One of our members owns a timing company and volunteers, so that helps a ton with cost. Other than that it's run on, membership fees, donations and volunteers.

Taxrunnergirl? What times do you run for an average 5k cross country race? Just curious and if you're trolling with the girl name, please don't bother responding. Thank you.