Rupp -- 46:23 in Tilburg Ten Mile -- 3rd Place

Wrong list wrote:

I question any list that is factually incorrect.

Martyn Brewer was not nor has ever been an American citizen. I know him.

He’s a great guy, lots of fun, but he’s British.

Do you even know yourself? I know Herb Lindsay, and HE actually has the record.

Correct on Brewer and Herb.

But this list still has some questionable entries.

The weather was like 73 degrees Fahrenheit at the time of the race.

Source?

Bekele would have been fun to watch win this race. His 10 miller in Bern was a much harder 10 miles then Tilburg which is super fast. 46:23 would be easy for him and his race in Bern is literally equivalent to the winning time in Tilburg.

As others have said 46:23 is 10s off of the American record. I haven't seen splits yet so no clue if he went out with the leaders and faded a bit or if he just stayed in control. You would think he would have run 11s faster just to get the official record. 46:23 = 1:00:48 half pace. He can run faster over a half marathon so I hope he treated this like a tempo. Two guys finished in front of him in 45:23 & 45:47. Dunno if he went with that or just did his own thing but in a race like this he should be running with those front two. What's the point of flying all the way to the Netherlands to do 10 miles that you could have just done on the Nike campus? Rupp has kind of an uneven history with tune-up races before marathons. He ran RNR Philly last year in the heat and New Haven 20k. He didn't rip either of those races and the cycle before that he ran 1:02 in Denmark before Boston 2017. Despite those races, he was able to have superb races in Boston & Chicago and was able to throw down faster at the end of those marathons than in some of those races.

Rupp is the best the US has for the marathon so I want to see him run fast. Since Chicago is the A goal, I wonder why do that half marathon in 3 weeks if he might just run 1:01-ish when some folks are gonna try to be sub-59.

Also I buy it being warm, this race starts in the afternoon.

Runnergrl wrote:

So if he was running 4:38 per mile we are looking at 2:05:30? If he was running marathon pace. If he running on tired legs he could go a bit faster? Goal could be 2:04 and some change.

No.

4:38 per mile for the marathon is 2:01:37. How did you come up with 2:05:30?

jlkjkj wrote:

I would question any course distance from the 1980s.

The Jones Counter was being widely used by then- older courses were remeasured and changed if need be.

If it came from the early 80's on and is certified then it's accurate.

It was more like courses from the 70's that were off- ie the Italian 10K (as they used to say) anywhere from 5.8-6.4 miles. LOL

Ryan Hall's HM was faster than Meyer's 10 miles.

found a post race interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jor67ycBzk

runn wrote:

jlkjkj wrote:

I would question any course distance from the 1980s.

The Jones Counter was being widely used by then- older courses were remeasured and changed if need be.

If it came from the early 80's on and is certified then it's accurate.

It was more like courses from the 70's that were off- ie the Italian 10K (as they used to say) anywhere from 5.8-6.4 miles. LOL

'70s and '80s, not 70's and 80's.

Who cares what the marathon equivalent is? It's only 60:50 half marathon pace, so not a fast time for Rupp at all.

Look at you clowns overanalyze race results. lol.

Split of Rupp

5km 5 km 02:48 min/km 00:14:01

10km 10 km 02:54 min/km 00:28:33

15km 15 km 02:56 min/km 00:43:14

Finish 16.09 km 02:53 min/km 00:46:23

Splits of winner

5km 5 km 02:46 min/km 00:13:51

10km 10 km 02:48 min/km 00:27:52

15km 15 km 02:53 min/km 00:42:15

Finish 16.09 km 02:52 min/km 00:45:23

You are right. Didn’t have my contact lenses on. :)

dnsksgbaba wrote:

everyone knows the REAL AR is Ritz’s 45minute 10mile tempo on the nike campus

Exactamundo. To put things in perspective Rupp just ran nearly a minute-and-a-half slower than Ritz once did in practice.

Wrong list wrote:

I question any list that is factually incorrect.

Martyn Brewer was not nor has ever been an American citizen. I know him.

He’s a great guy, lots of fun, but he’s British.

Seems like there are a few things you don't know about him.

Runnergrl wrote:

46:23 =2:11 marathon. Definitely a rust buster. Anyone know how his training has been going? Don’t hear much due to Galen not being on social media. Most athletes post up twitter and Instagram anytime they do anything remotely impressive.

Without looking at any charts, anyone that knows running can easily assess that 46:23 is way faster than 2:11. Part of what you need to factor in is was this performance by a 5K/10K specialist vs a marathoner. Obviously, the time projects faster for a marathoner, especially if the marathoners is training for a marathon. With that said, I would give Rupp's 46:23 10-mile at least a 2:08 equivalent.