Art Siemers: Best coach in the NCAA

Agree. Art did a good job building Colorado Mines program than continued at CSU.

What's crazier is they should have been top 5

Agreed.

Good for him. He was a real crybaby in college.

It is refreshing to see a coach who actually coaches kids up. CSU almost beat CU today (short of Mock cratering the last 2K, but I will give him credit for trying to get a top 10 finish and leaving everything on the course) with much less talent in recruiting. Albeit it is a down year for CU (they are pretty young) and CSU had a number of older athletes, this is what is possible when less heralded high school runners are developed over time. Great job by Siemers and the Rams.

Martin Smith should be considered one of the greatest coaches in NCAA history but for some reason he never gets mentioned. Iowa State did nothing for years after their NCAA championships in the early 90s. . Which were teams built on foreign stars. He came in and in 4 years coached a 7th place NCAA team which isn't built on foreign stars.

He did the same at Oklahoma, a school with zero distance tradition, finishing 5th one year. And also with American-born recruits only. e

Coached NCAA championship teams at Virginia and Wisconsin. And even at Oregon where he was driven out for shifting recruiting to track and field versus distance, they finished 5th one year under him. Oregon finished 6th yesterday.

George Webb wrote:

Martin Smith should be considered one of the greatest coaches in NCAA history but for some reason he never gets mentioned. Iowa State did nothing for years after their NCAA championships in the early 90s. . Which were teams built on foreign stars. He came in and in 4 years coached a 7th place NCAA team which isn't built on foreign stars.

He did the same at Oklahoma, a school with zero distance tradition, finishing 5th one year. And also with American-born recruits only. e

Coached NCAA championship teams at Virginia and Wisconsin. And even at Oregon where he was driven out for shifting recruiting to track and field versus distance, they finished 5th one year under him. Oregon finished 6th yesterday.

Interesting. He has always gotten it done but for whatever reason flies under the radar. I’ve never even seen an interview with him.

I do remember hearing that he has a very abrasive personality and many athletes can’t make it in his program but those that do tend to become All Americans.

joedirt wrote:

It is refreshing to see a coach who actually coaches kids up. CSU almost beat CU today (short of Mock cratering the last 2K, but I will give him credit for trying to get a top 10 finish and leaving everything on the course) with much less talent in recruiting. Albeit it is a down year for CU (they are pretty young) and CSU had a number of older athletes, this is what is possible when less heralded high school runners are developed over time. Great job by Siemers and the Rams.

Who was it from CSU that was in the top 7 fairly late into the race? I thought that was the fake Grant Fisher. Was it someone else?

Every team score i saw showed them in the top 4 so i assumed GF blew up badly which pushed them back to 7th.

Also, what happened to Bryan Berryhill? Wasn’t he coaching there?

That was Jerrel Mock. He was pushing as high as fifth at one point chasing the lead group, but it didn't work for him yesterday.

He won Griak the past two years and finished in the teens in Louisville last time, so it wasn't crazy, but it was aggressive.

George Webb wrote:

He came in and in 4 years coached a 7th place NCAA team which isn't built on foreign stars.

Two Kenyan transfers were pivotal in this year’s success. Fine by me, but use facts. The guy has railed against coaches recruiting foreigners, but resorted to it when he didn’t have success otherwise. Also, plenty of questionable/unethical recruiting tactics. Is Kemboi a countable recruiter?

Is Art Siemers Runningart2004?

Swahili Smith wrote:

George Webb wrote:

He came in and in 4 years coached a 7th place NCAA team which isn't built on foreign stars.

Two Kenyan transfers were pivotal in this year’s success. Fine by me, but use facts. The guy has railed against coaches recruiting foreigners, but resorted to it when he didn’t have success otherwise. Also, plenty of questionable/unethical recruiting tactics. Is Kemboi a countable recruiter?

I would agree that the Stanley Langat addition was big for them, but Festus Lagat was not "pivotal" to ISU's success at all this season. He had little to no impact on the scoring for this team. He didn't run at NCAA's or regionals. He was their 9th man at BIG 12's.

He took the head coaching job at Wyoming. Can't blame the guy as head coaching jobs don't come up very often.

Defense is the best offense wrote:

Is Art Siemers Runningart2004?

So you're asking if a guy who literally signs all his posts with "Alan" is a guy named "Art"

ILL St wrote:

Good for him. He was a real crybaby in college.

He was a crybaby after college too.

Best coach in the NCAA? Not even close.

Good try, Art.

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I agree. If Mock finished top 20 like he should have, CSU is fighting for a podium spot,

crybaby wrote:

ILL St wrote:

Good for him. He was a real crybaby in college.

He was a crybaby after college too.

Best coach in the NCAA? Not even close.

Good try, Art.

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Can you elaborate?