Can you catch me? I will cheat to BQ in 2018

maybe he can do the time anyway run the marathon then say he cheated when he didn't

weird wrote:

maybe he can do the time anyway run the marathon then say he cheated when he didn't

Nice English.

Well this will be a fun thread to follow ?

Professor Plum with a Candlestick wrote:...I can also say that I wouldn't cheat to the point where I'd affect any sort of podium or money payout. I would need a time that is SLOWER than 3:05. Of course the proposed race would be "Boston Certified."...

What does "Boston Certified" mean? Any marathon held on a certified course can be used for a BQ. Marathons NOT held on certified courses are things like trail races (where a BQ time would likely podium) and really small marathons like all those series that pop up so people can do things like run a marathon a day for a week, another situation where a BQ time is going to podium.

Professor Plum with a Candlestick wrote:

Obviously I'm not using my real IP address!

Register your username, use Tor for all site visits. Problem solved.

I think we need to set some parameters here:

-It should not be at some tiny, obscure marathon: 500 finisher minimum

-You should tell us within a month after your attempt that it has been completed

-From that point on, we should have a month to catch you

-Guesses should be submitted on this thread, with name, bib number, and evidence

-If we don't catch you, everyone who posts a wrong guess agrees (scout's honor) to make a $10 donation to Marathon Investigation

-If we do catch you, you agree to make a $100 donation to MI

-After 20 guesses, you're off the hook

-You agree you'll tell the marathon after either a month or after we catch you (not gonna lie, ideally you would tell the RD beforehand and [s]he would tell no one else, but I understand they may provide some challenges/limitations unless you know a lot of RDs)

-If they send you an AG or any other type of award, you promise to return it

-You use your real name (that's an essential part of this--online presence matters, and you can't run Boston without a time in yor own name)

-You don't run Boston with this result

That all seems reasonable to me. Agreed, OP?

stick man wrote:

go ahead and cheat, I'll still smoke your ass.

Smoking ass if bad for you.

Why only 20 guesses? As long as the guess has reasonable evidence to go along with it I don't think there needs to be a limit. And he should absolutely not tell the RD beforehand.

Pfffftt

Amateur. I've already registered for Boston '18 without getting a BQ myself.

Just get a bib mule to run a time similar to what you have run in the past. And keep a low profile.

Thanks to Derek too. His incessant need for publicity has shown people how to get away with it.

Cheaty mc. Cheating wrote:

Pfffftt

Amateur. I've already registered for Boston '18 without getting a BQ myself.

Just get a bib mule to run a time similar to what you have run in the past. And keep a low profile.

Thanks to Derek too. His incessant need for publicity has shown people how to get away with it.

Yep. Bib mule in a couple local 5ks to get comparable results and then bib mule the Marathon. Not that anyone would do that.

dad bod wrote:

stick man wrote:

go ahead and cheat, I'll still smoke your ass.

Smoking ass if bad for you.

I laughed.

I think he should have to post his name and the race he's running for us to believe him....

agreed.

the real game/troll here is that he will not do it, but it will still generate a massive thread due to the clever idea. The encryption gimmick helps.

How is this a clever idea? What is so interesting here that we would keep following it for a year? But then I don't get the 5,000-post cheater threads, either.

Name withheld wrote:

Cheaty mc. Cheating wrote:

Pfffftt

Amateur. I've already registered for Boston '18 without getting a BQ myself.

Just get a bib mule to run a time similar to what you have run in the past. And keep a low profile.

Thanks to Derek too. His incessant need for publicity has shown people how to get away with it.

Yep. Bib mule in a couple local 5ks to get comparable results and then bib mule the Marathon. Not that anyone would do that.

Yes. Bib mule was my first thought, too.

But I don't yet understand the challenge. Derek somewhere estimated that 2 to 3% of people who qualify for running the Boston Marathon cheated to do it. Who knows if that figure is true, but what is the OP providing to help anyone distinguish between him an all the other cheaters who run in 2018?

I not impressed. Cheating to qualify for Boston is quite easy. If you want to impress me then figure out a way to cheat and qualify for the Ironman triathlon in Hawaii. Good luck!!!!

Professor Plum with a Candlestick wrote:

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Do not trust any other post purporting to be me without having the key for the above!

Good Evening Fellow LRCers.

First things first, the encryption key to my last post is:

DidYouKnowIt'sGame7ofWorldSeriesTonight?

So in response to the the fellow that registered my handle...I didn't want to register it, I figure it is more fun to work with encryption. Plus I didn't want any loose ends like an email out there.

I'll try to answer some of the questions out there.

1. I am using Tor Browser, on a VM using VPN. The VM and VPN is part of my work setup, Tor Browser makes it a little more random.

2. I have a marathon in mind, and it is 1000+ finishers, and east of the Mississippi. Is that enough narrowing down? Obviously either spring or fall.

My original thought was really just me knowing I did it and that would be enough. I see now that it would be more fun to "prove" to LRC that it was done, but I'm still trying to figure out how to do that without having my real name branded as "cheater" on-line. After all, there are still many years of racing for real that I'd like to do.

So if anyone has some suggestions on that matter, I'm happy to consider them.

Telling RD beforehand is not a good idea. I can't imagine they would be happy or supportive of that endeavor.

I have already mentioned the time I need is not the 3:05 group. I will of course not use this time as an actual time, and I know from past results in the target race that the time I need is no where near the podium for age group.

My next encryption, remember, trust no one that does not provide the key for this!

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PS: I have one other way of proving my identity as the OP should the encryption ever fail. I have kept track of the IP I use for each post, only a moderator would be able to validate.

I think you'll need to register for the marathon under another name and get a fake ID to pick up your packet. Then you'll need to wear a clever disguise for the race so nobody can identify you from the race photos. Maybe an eye patch and a scar.

Cheat your way to an OTQ and I'll be impressed.