A few days ago, some idiot speculated that Hasay might never run faster than she did in her debut.
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Bo Jackson Baseball wrote:
Derrick and Braun hold on for respectable races.
1 1 1 » Rupp, Galen (USA) Portland, OR 10 30-34 31 01:05:50 02:09:20
2 2 1 » Kirui, Abel (KEN) 1 35-39 35 01:05:49 02:09:48
3 3 2 » Kipyego, Bernard (KEN) 7 30-34 31 01:05:50 02:10:23
4 4 1 » Lemma, Sisay (ETH) 5 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:11:01
5 5 2 » Sambu, Stephen (KEN) 18 25-29 29 01:05:50 02:11:07
6 6 3 » Matsumura , Kohei (JPN) 9 30-34 30 01:05:50 02:11:46
7 7 3 » Chebii, Ezekiel (KEN) 6 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:12:12
8 8 2 » Tadese, Zersenay (ERI) 12 35-39 35 01:05:49 02:12:19
9 9 4 » Derrick, Chris (USA) Portland, OR 30 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:12:50
10 10 4 » Shelley, Michael (AUS) 14 30-34 33 01:05:50 02:12:52
11 11 5 » Miyawaki, Chihiro (JPN) 15 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:13:23
12 12 5 » Braun, Aaron (USA) Flagstaff, AZ 17 30-34 30 01:05:49 02:13:41
13 13 6 » Bumbalough, Andrew (USA) Portland, OR 20 30-34 30 01:05:50 02:14:04
14 14 6 » Lilesa, Feyisa (ETH) 4 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:14:49
15 15 7 » Chelanga, Sam (USA) Colorado Springs, CO 29 30-34 32 01:05:50 02:15:02
16 16 7 » Estrada, Diego (USA) Flagstaff, AZ 19 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:15:19
17 17 8 » Hampton, Jonas (USA) Medford, MA 23 25-29 28 01:05:53 02:15:46
18 18 9 » Matsuo, Ryoichi (JPN) 16 25-29 26 01:05:50 02:15:50
19 19 10 » Droddy, Noah (USA) Boulder, CO 31 25-29 27 01:05:54 02:16:26
20 20 11 » Puskedra, Luke (USA) Eugene, OR 11 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:17:53
21 21 1 » Phillips, Jonathan (USA) Brighton, MA 397 20-24 24 01:08:33 02:18:19
23 22 12 » Peterson, Alan (USA) Chicago, IL 395 25-29 25 01:08:33 02:18:47
24 23 13 » Yilma, Yon (USA) Edmonds, WA 450 25-29 28 01:07:26 02:19:02
25 24 14 » Havel, Kevin (USA) Chicago, IL 456 25-29 27 01:08:43 02:20:1
Another mediocre run by Tadese.
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Both Jordan and Galen looked very strong at mile 24. Expect great things.
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scorpion_runner wrote:
Not when the women do what they say that they are going to do! a 2:09 marathon is pathetic. HE basically did a Mo farah on the road, and we always get on Mo for that.
Look man, this was set up for Rupp to win. He won, but no one is going to celebrate his win when it is slower than Boston and New York, and way slower then the previous winners of chicago.
Some of this is up to the difference in depth between the men's and women's field. Dibaba can afford to risk playing pacemaker for the field and still win by close to two minutes. The 6th place guy was closer to Rupp than the 2nd place woman was to Dibaba.
Hasay ran 2:20 in her second marathon! That's the equivalent of running 2:05-2:06 on the men's side. That chick might have 2:18 ability!
and she is more talented than rupp.
Hasay does seem to have found her niche and could be the best US women's marathoner since Kastor.
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Derrick to the front wrote:
Which means he's on the edge of his energy, and will fall back soon.
That's exactly what happened.
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habs wrote:
"Chicago is crushed by the baby-faced destroyer"
Still laughing. Quote of the day from the NBC announcers.
That's what happened, though! I was able to go to several different points on the course... Dibaba is such a fluid runner. She destroyed the girls behind her trying to catch a ride.
Go, Galen!
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What was Rupp’s last 10k? He ran 22:51 for the last 5 miles, so the idiot who was knocking him and said it was 29:47 was way off.
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"could be"?? She already is..
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A. Kastor wrote:
"could be"?? She already is..
You forgot Amy Cragg, Shalane Flanagan and possibly Molly Huddle.
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Please check out 45-49 female age group winner. No splits at all until the end.
No other runner before her shows lack of splits. Sad if she isn't legit. It will take the race officials way too long to discover.
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scorpion_runner wrote:
Science wins wrote:
It was a great day for Americans. Rupp said he hoped to run 2:05-6 but his goal was to win and never said he was going to push the pace. He ran a very smart race and did what he needed to win.
Racing is great. It doesn't always have to be a time trial. I am critical of Rupp for many things, but today he did what he needed to do and was brilliant.
Not when the women do what they say that they are going to do! a 2:09 marathon is pathetic. HE basically did a Mo farah on the road, and we always get on Mo for that.
Look man, this was set up for Rupp to win. He won, but no one is going to celebrate his win when it is slower than Boston and New York, and way slower then the previous winners of chicago.
Hasay ran 2:20 in her second marathon! That's the equivalent of running 2:05-2:06 on the men's side. That chick might have 2:18 ability!
and she is more talented than rupp.
At the end you're just hating on Rupp and it makes all your other points irrrelevant. Hope you're at least a half way decent runner, but I doubt that.
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A. Kastor wrote:
"could be"?? She already is..
I would agree with that. Second fastest american time, 2 MM second place finishes.
I just hope that she continue to following the elite africans. Don't settle for slow races like boston or New york!
She can run London and possibly finish in third place!
I wonder what Molly Huddle is thinking right now, and will Molly run London or a fast marathon course?
Jordan Hasay is an elite marathoner and I would put her at top 5 in the world. She beat Florence Kipligat.
1. Mary K
2. Dibaba
3. Cherono
4. Edna Kipligat
5. Hasay
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Bo Jackson Baseball wrote:
Derrick and Braun hold on for respectable races.
1 1 1 » Rupp, Galen (USA) Portland, OR 10 30-34 31 01:05:50 02:09:20
2 2 1 » Kirui, Abel (KEN) 1 35-39 35 01:05:49 02:09:48
3 3 2 » Kipyego, Bernard (KEN) 7 30-34 31 01:05:50 02:10:23
4 4 1 » Lemma, Sisay (ETH) 5 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:11:01
5 5 2 » Sambu, Stephen (KEN) 18 25-29 29 01:05:50 02:11:07
6 6 3 » Matsumura , Kohei (JPN) 9 30-34 30 01:05:50 02:11:46
7 7 3 » Chebii, Ezekiel (KEN) 6 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:12:12
8 8 2 » Tadese, Zersenay (ERI) 12 35-39 35 01:05:49 02:12:19
9 9 4 » Derrick, Chris (USA) Portland, OR 30 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:12:50
10 10 4 » Shelley, Michael (AUS) 14 30-34 33 01:05:50 02:12:52
11 11 5 » Miyawaki, Chihiro (JPN) 15 25-29 26 01:05:49 02:13:23
12 12 5 » Braun, Aaron (USA) Flagstaff, AZ 17 30-34 30 01:05:49 02:13:41
13 13 6 » Bumbalough, Andrew (USA) Portland, OR 20 30-34 30 01:05:50 02:14:04
14 14 6 » Lilesa, Feyisa (ETH) 4 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:14:49
15 15 7 » Chelanga, Sam (USA) Colorado Springs, CO 29 30-34 32 01:05:50 02:15:02
16 16 7 » Estrada, Diego (USA) Flagstaff, AZ 19 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:15:19
17 17 8 » Hampton, Jonas (USA) Medford, MA 23 25-29 28 01:05:53 02:15:46
18 18 9 » Matsuo, Ryoichi (JPN) 16 25-29 26 01:05:50 02:15:50
19 19 10 » Droddy, Noah (USA) Boulder, CO 31 25-29 27 01:05:54 02:16:26
20 20 11 » Puskedra, Luke (USA) Eugene, OR 11 25-29 27 01:05:50 02:17:53
21 21 1 » Phillips, Jonathan (USA) Brighton, MA 397 20-24 24 01:08:33 02:18:19
23 22 12 » Peterson, Alan (USA) Chicago, IL 395 25-29 25 01:08:33 02:18:47
24 23 13 » Yilma, Yon (USA) Edmonds, WA 450 25-29 28 01:07:26 02:19:02
25 24 14 » Havel, Kevin (USA) Chicago, IL 456 25-29 27 01:08:43 02:20:1
Thanks for post - does anyone know at what point Rupp separated from Kirui? He put 28 seconds on him (a 2:05 marathoner) by the finish. What about his time for last mile or two?
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With her 30:13, Huddle can definitely dip below 2:20. I don't think Hasay will ever match that.
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Fastest since Kastor, yes. Best, no. Samuelson is still best, then Kastor. Hasay is also rivaled by Catalano, Cragg, Linden, and Flanagan; she’s probably ahead of Goucher now.
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Btw, Hasay still hasn't won anything significant, as opposed to, say, Cragg's bronze at Worlds. I won't place her in the top-5. Top-10 or Top-15, maybe.
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How do you know what Rono's form was like? You weren't even born then.
R. Deak, esquire wrote:
Kirui's form is reminiscent of Rono's. He hasn't completely fallen off, he just can't hold Rupp's tempo. Impressive to see him physically battle to hang on back there.
Deak, OUT!
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Again, what was Rupp’s last 10k?
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That's why Alberto's crying, he just got PASSED. What's uuuuupppp???
Ftcftvvfttff wrote:
kgkgliuhuih wrote:
Rupp wins in 2:09:19
6th fastest American ever (on legal course), just ahead of Alberto's 2:09:21.
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scorpion_runner wrote:
Rupp, what happened with the 2:06 that you were going to go after? You said that you were going to push aggressively for!
trash race. trash time. The women have way more balls than the men! ...and took to it immediately!
Rupp is still a 2:09 guy.
I thought it was an exciting finish. You realize last year was won in 2:11:23?!
If the pace had started hard like the women's, i'm sure Galen would have gone with it. Why would he solo into Chicago winds and risk blowing up.
He ran a big neg split (very few did), he set a PB, he finished very strong and he won a WMM race. Any runner or coach would be thrilled with that.
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