"What the Health" Netflix film - thoughts?

Diet is the new religion. Soon vegans will be driving trucks into Mickey D's.

Bump. Surely there are some nutrition know it alls that want to add their 2 cents

What kind of "healthy" diet is completely deficient in a vitamin?!

Meh. Humans have a long evolutionary history as omnivores. We are blessed with the flexibility to eat a varied diet. I have no issue with vegetarians in their different permutations, except for their sometimes moralizing and patronizing attitudes and behavior. I have gone through periods of eating that way but have never committed to it. I see it like I see running. I love running, which may or may not be keeping me healthier and happier than I would otherwise be, and which may or may not add or delete years from my life. Those who eat plant-based diets should do it because they love it and not assume it will add years to their lives, nor that it makes them somehow more virtuous than the rest of us.

I am working on my follow-up documentary "What The Flock", about the sheep-like devotion that vegans have to following this fad diet and lifestyle which denies entire categories of food which have supported human health for millions of years.

I don't eat a lot of meat but I'm not ready to give it up completely and am skeptical of the extremist claims of "What the Heath." This guy does a good job picking it apart...

https://robbwolf.com/2017/07/03/what-the-health-a-wolfs-eye-review/

This is still better than the low carb nonsense.

same old, same old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5tUL8ZBsQ

As a vegetarian who is very close to vegan I thought this was well done. Pretty biased but informative.

Most any diet that is a shift from what one is used to is likely to cause some problems along the way. For every one successful long-term vegan there are many who crash and burn due to not knowing what to watch out for, not knowing how to prepare meals, etc.

To be fair, for every one successful long-term carnivore there are many who crash and burn for the same reasons.

Ultimately, boxing yourself or anyone you're responsible for into a certain diet has a high likelihood of failure.

Diets tend to lead to habitual eating, rather than conscious eating.

Being a vegan is no guarantee your diet is healthy.

Thanks for the mostly decent replies. I've decided to take a moderate approach and simply reduce meat intake (I was eating it almost daily) and increase fruit and veggie intake. Not even going to worry about cutting back on dairy.

No more than 36 ounces of meat per week(includes everything, meat and fish), some weeks less than half of that

No more than 41 oz of 1% milk per week

No more than 41 oz of fat free yogurt per week

No more than 17 oz of low fat ice cream per week, some weeks no ice cream

Everything else 100% vegan.

I dont't think those animal foods are going to kill me. :)

Turned veggie based on this. Not vegan yet but no longer drink cows milk.

Eat a ton of veggies, fruit, nuts, beans, lentils, and whole grains and you'll be healthier than ever

dietss wrote:

No more than 36 ounces of meat per week(includes everything, meat and fish), some weeks less than half of that

No more than 41 oz of 1% milk per week

No more than 41 oz of fat free yogurt per week

No more than 17 oz of low fat ice cream per week, some weeks no ice cream

Everything else 100% vegan.

I dont't think those animal foods are going to kill me. :)

So, other than eating a whole lot of animal products, including more meat than most people in the world, you're 100% vegan. Got it.

Watched the movie with wife. The review posted above was very detailed and explained a lot of the issues with the movie. There are certainly good points made in the movie but also some clear agenda moves with little to no backing up by facts.

We are going to back off eating a lot of meat and do our best to eat grass fed/no antibiotic/horomone meat.

From all the research we have done, it seems clear that most feel drinking/eat dairy from cows is foolish and dangerous to your health. If you choose to go organic milk, be sure you aren't getting it from Costco/Walmart/etc., because they use suppliers that don't even come close to trying to apply by the intent of the organic certification process (way too many cows - 10x the norm, very little - if any - grass fed time, antibiotic injected, etc.). Too much info currently available to show those producers are taking advantage of a very lax organic certification process.

ntsa wrote:

dietss wrote:

No more than 36 ounces of meat per week(includes everything, meat and fish), some weeks less than half of that

No more than 41 oz of 1% milk per week

No more than 41 oz of fat free yogurt per week

No more than 17 oz of low fat ice cream per week, some weeks no ice cream

Everything else 100% vegan.

I dont't think those animal foods are going to kill me. :)

So, other than eating a whole lot of animal products, including more meat than most people in the world, you're 100% vegan. Got it.

A whole lot? That was per week.

I am a westerner and not a vegan.

Former Ohio Runner wrote:

From all the research we have done, it seems clear that most feel drinking/eat dairy from cows is foolish and dangerous to your health. If you choose to go organic milk, be sure you aren't getting it from Costco/Walmart/etc., because they use suppliers that don't even come close to trying to apply by the intent of the organic certification process (way too many cows - 10x the norm, very little - if any - grass fed time, antibiotic injected, etc.). Too much info currently available to show those producers are taking advantage of a very lax organic certification process.