Whose free speech rights are being trampled by Trump?
... and please .... before you answer ... form a clear idea of what "free speech" means.
HINT: Trump calling out CNN's fake news is NOT suppression of free speech.
Whose free speech rights are being trampled by Trump?
... and please .... before you answer ... form a clear idea of what "free speech" means.
HINT: Trump calling out CNN's fake news is NOT suppression of free speech.
DiscoGary wrote:
Obama used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposition party with the intent of overthrowing the elected President. ..
This is probably the biggest scandal in the history of the US .
Gary, couple the above statement with your view that Trump will soon be the greatest president ever since Washington, and now you know why literally NO ONE with an ounce of integrity or objective thinking,takes you, or someone like you ( there are many clones out there) seriously.
These statements are proof positive that you are indefensibly ignorant, or just a ridiculous troll who just spews things that pop into his head because they amuse him, and he doesn't care, or even bother to decide, if they true or not.
Again, anyone who does not live in conservative bizarro alternate reality
land (which around 20-25% of the country apparently does) would laugh in your face over such farcical statements. You're a joke. A very bad joke indeed.
Muhhhhh whattabouttrump!!!
The FBI presented legally obtained evidence to FISA courts to obtain FISA warrants. There, fixed it for you. Before you continue on with your ridiculous deep state/secret society theories, do some research on what it takes to get a FISA warrant. Obama CANNOT use our intelligence agencies to spy on the GOP.
Trumpers are not dealing with reality.
The biggest scandal in American history will be Trump and Russia's efforts to circumnavigate democracy. Trump will go down as the worst president. A criminal. Russiagate will dwarf Watergate. Trump is infinitely worse than Benedict Arnold.
Mueller time is fast approaching.
Country over party.
RICO is coming for the GOP.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I don't consider the 2016 fiasco representative of what the Republican Party was or has a chance to be again.
Well, that's silly.
Really? Many people who voted for Trump hadn't voted in years or had voted Democrat before, and some who supported Bernie Sanders ended up voting for Trump. This is clearly not the Republican Party of even George W. Bush. Right now it is some amalgam of Far-right conservatives, racist white nationalists, evangelicals who have lost their way, some people who just want someone to take care of them, and some libertarians. It is the Trump Party now. A Party without George Will is not the Republican Party of old. Maybe reason will once again be a part of the Republican Party.
I don't care about being in the majority.
I don't care if people laugh in my face.
I don't care if people call me ignorant or ridiculous.
I don't care if I look like a joke.
I don't care if people call me a racist, Nazi, white supremacist.
I only care if I'm right.
My world view is correct because I can predict outcomes. Yours can not, so you are wrong... and calling me names does not change the real world. I understand how unsettling it is for those who live in liberal fantasy land to hear someone challenge your illusion by forcing your eyes to focus on reality, but someone has to do it.
It would be cruel to let you go on believing the lies.
I'll post the article below again for the conspiracy theorists. The investigation did NOT start with the Steele Dossier nor did it start with Papadopoulos. Our allies are saving our asses on Russiagate. The number of indictments will be staggering. It'll take 3-5 years to sort it all out.
nontrumper wrote:
FBI deputy director McCabe is stepping down today. I would expect him to be a witness in an upcoming obstruction of justice case.
Not good news for Trumpers.
Today's trivia:
What was Felt's position during Watergate?!
OH, and had I been asked about what I thought about "white people" in the context of cultural problems, I would have said that white men have a problem with opiods... BECAUSE ITS TRUE! Just like everything else I said was true.
Any attempt to attack the opiod problem would have to start with "What's going on in the white male community to cause this?" If someone claims that's racist, well, you'd have to tell them fvck off because there's a problem to solve and Political Correctness doesn't solve problems.
Flagpole wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Well, that's silly.
Really? Many people who voted for Trump hadn't voted in years or had voted Democrat before, and some who supported Bernie Sanders ended up voting for Trump. This is clearly not the Republican Party of even George W. Bush. Right now it is some amalgam of Far-right conservatives, racist white nationalists, evangelicals who have lost their way, some people who just want someone to take care of them, and some libertarians. It is the Trump Party now. A Party without George Will is not the Republican Party of old. Maybe reason will once again be a part of the Republican Party.
Really? Many people who voted for Hillary Clinton hadn't voted in years or had voted Republican before...so what's the difference? You've got to be the most biased one-sided political poster in this entire thread. Trust me, many people believe you to be the real racist and they are probably right. Sad how you deflect everything. What a weasel.
Getting educated wrote:
RICO is coming for the GOP.
https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/sources-russia-probe-means-president-hatch-rico-case-against-gop/
There's a reason members of the GOP have been complicit in the obstruction of the Mueller investigation: sleeping with the enemy. Russia $$$ to the GOP. Russia $$$ to the NRA to the GOP.
Why do you think Nunes has been such a pr*ck?! He's screwed and, therefore, desperate. Why are so many high ranking members of the GOP retiring? They're all cornered and fighting for their freedom. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
DiscoGary wrote:
In those terms I am a "culturalist". A person's race or religion doesn't determine too much, but their culture does. Culture in this context would be a society's values, work ethic, respect for laws, tolerance of others, strength of family ties, etc.
1) What a load...a HUGE load. Societal values, work ethic, respect for laws, tolerance of others and strength of family? Are you serious? Your man Trump has none of these qualities. You don't respect those qualities or you could not stand by Trump.
2) Even if I could agree that you are a "culturalist", what a stupid thing that is (unless you mean you are a Cultural Anthropologist as a vocation). So, you are against anyone who doesn't have the same "culture" as you? What do you even use to define that? What if they eat sauerkraut on New Year's Day or get Paczkis on Fat Tuesday? The "culture" of people is different in San Francisco than it is in Baltimore, MD or in New Orleans, LA (even among same race people). Why the hell would you feel so strongly about your "culture" that you are against those who have a different one than you? Just a code word or rationalization for racism. Have you not ever spent time with people who are different from you?
I don't like to push back on someone like that, but dude, you really need some self reflection. If you live in the US, the "culture" is the melting pot of the world. If you have English or Scottish or German heritage, and you are such a "culturalist", perhaps you should move there.
nontrumper wrote:
Getting educated wrote:
RICO is coming for the GOP.
https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/sources-russia-probe-means-president-hatch-rico-case-against-gop/There's a reason members of the GOP have been complicit in the obstruction of the Mueller investigation: sleeping with the enemy. Russia $$$ to the GOP. Russia $$$ to the NRA to the GOP.
Why do you think Nunes has been such a pr*ck?! He's screwed and, therefore, desperate. Why are so many high ranking members of the GOP retiring? They're all cornered and fighting for their freedom. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Guys, the Russian collusion story was made up by the Hillary campaign the day after she lost as an excuse for her horrible performance as a candidate.
http://theduran.com/new-insider-book-reveals-hillary-clinton-made-up-russia-story-to-cover-up-lazy-pathetic-election-loss/Who else is planning to watch Idiocracy during the SOTU?
I hope you can find all the pieces of your head.
In comparison to Trump voters in 2016, that is not true. More true if you go back to Obama's first term election so that would have been a better analogy for you to use, but still not as true as for Trump in 2016. I am definitely not a racist, and there is no evidence to support that.
Not sure what that means.
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
I hope you can find all the pieces of your head.
Not sure what that means.
"culturalism" = Flagpole head explosion
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Not sure what that means.
"culturalism" = Flagpole head explosion
Dude...just consider this...you want people to be let in the country based on merit. Perhaps you should treat people and accept them based on merit also. Dislike an individual person if they do something you don't like, but to be against whole groups of people based on some perceived group dynamic, is not right from any main point of view, secular or religious.
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