Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Corsicana Pete wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It's not dead. He's just hopeful and wrong.

Indictments for Trump Jr. and Kushner will be next.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

And Flagpole will keep saying this idiotic response next year. Give it a rest, Flagpole. Your credibility is lower than Trump's.

1) It's not an idiotic response.

2) I will be saying it until the investigation is over with one caveat...If Mueller is fired, I will insert the name of the person who replaces him. You look a year ahead and think that's a long time. It isn't. Takes time to nail down charges when there are so many involved and so many threads to follow.

3) My credibility has nothing to do with the fact that Trump is under investigation and things are moving toward him. I didn't make that up. I dispute your claim on my credibility anyway.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I agree with most of your post, except I don't think Oprah is likely to call people a "basket of deplorables". Her tone seems (to me) to be a bit more positive. Granted we're both speculating on what candidate Oprah would be like anyway.

L L wrote:

Joe Arpaio, the criminal sheriff that Trump pardoned, is running for Senator in Arizona. To replace Jeff Flake who hates Trump.

It would be interesting to see him win the primary and then give the seat to a democrat in the general election on November.

The Dems could get a Senate majority.

Arpaio is ridiculous. I thought Trump was going to be the "law and order" president? And then he pardons a guy who openly defied an order from a judge? Only if you criminalize brown people is it ok according to Trump.

I appreciate your view on this, but I'm not willing to play politics with Trump's behavior in any way. He just needs to be ousted, and as soon as possible. If that happens because the Democrats take the House and Senate, then so be it, but shame on Republicans for not being part of protecting our country from this Orange fool.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Oprah should stay away from politics. I just don't see what's in it for her. She has been recorded for decades, and there are already some silly things coming out that she has said during that time. She doesn't have the background to be able to be an effective President, and it would continue our country's foolish image that we attained with Trump. I really hope she stays away. If it's Oprah vs. Trump, I will have to vote for her for two main reasons:

1) She is a stable person.

2) She would and could get decent people who would want to work for her. Trump attracted suspect people because he was suspect...flies to sh!t.

But, it would be the lesser of two evils there. If a Republican like John Kasich beat Trump in the primary, I would likely vote for him over Oprah...gotta see what they say on the campaign trail, but I'm not excited about voting for Oprah.

Forget it, brother- she's not running.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/close-friend-gayle-king-oprah-actively-2020-run/story?id=52234915&cid=social_twitter_tw

L L wrote:

Joe Arpaio, the criminal sheriff that Trump pardoned, is running for Senator in Arizona. To replace Jeff Flake who hates Trump.

It would be interesting to see him win the primary and then give the seat to a democrat in the general election on November.

The Dems could get a Senate majority.

Fascinating. Enough people in a primary will get behind the clown like they did Moore. That's no guarantee a Democrat can win in that State.

Flagpole wrote:

Oprah should stay away from politics. I just don't see what's in it for her. She has been recorded for decades, and there are already some silly things coming out that she has said during that time. She doesn't have the background ...

I'm sure someone somewhere said the exact same thing about Trump. And yet, here we are.

America has a much longer history of electing people with no actual governing skills. Reagan was an actor. The guy's grasp of reality was weak, at best.

Flagpole's brother wrote:

Forget it, brother- she's not running.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/close-friend-gayle-king-oprah-actively-2020-run/story?id=52234915&cid=social_twitter_tw

She has said that before and then been less definitive. I really hope she sticks with this and does not run.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Oprah should stay away from politics. I just don't see what's in it for her. She has been recorded for decades, and there are already some silly things coming out that she has said during that time. She doesn't have the background ...

I'm sure someone somewhere said the exact same thing about Trump. And yet, here we are.

America has a much longer history of electing people with no actual governing skills. Reagan was an actor. The guy's grasp of reality was weak, at best.

1) Trump loves power and influence. No evidence with Oprah that she is such in love with those things as Trump is.

2) Reagan at least was the governor of California, and before that President of the Screen Actor's Guild with a big interest in governing and politics.

3) I am not saying Oprah can't win. I'm saying I hope she doesn't run, because I would rather have someone with more appropriate experience to win.

This is...interesting.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/trump-campaign-had-a-mole-who-talked-to-the-fbi/

This is also...interesting;

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fusion-gps-senate-transcript-glenn-simpson-russia-trump

Rigged for Trump wrote:

This is...interesting.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/trump-campaign-had-a-mole-who-talked-to-the-fbi/

This is likely. Someone somewhere tipped the FBI off other than Christopher Steele...the FBI has confirmed that his dossier wasn't the thing that started the investigation.

Trump is so screwed.

• 7 references to "mafia" links

• 20 references to Putin links

• Trump repeatedly said he and his buildings were worth less than people and agencies imagined

• the intelligence community seems to think Trump's being blackmailed

• the specific reason for the blackmail has to do with "Russians having cameras in all the luxury hotel rooms" **PEE TAPE

• Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6) - that being, that the now president was/is being blackmailed by the Kremlin. The FBI viewed Steele's info as credible because they already had the same info from a Trump insider. Correction from Fusion GPS (the Australian diplomat was the source that opened the FBI investigation).

• on page 154, on Trump "However, he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin"

• on page 242, Fusion believed because of their research Carter Page was compromised, and he was being offered business deals for his cooperation

• on page 279, Simpson said someone was already killed because of the information contained in the dossier (because they were revealed to be a source..I wonder if that would happen if the information contained was all false /s)

Edit the third:

• on page 73, "So in the course of reading that litigation we would follow up on things that were interesting, such as a libel case against a journalist that he settled, which, in other words, he didn't prevail in his attempts to prove that he was a billionaire."

• on pages 71-72, "One of the things we found out was that, you know, when it comes to paying taxes, Donald Trump claims to not have much stuff. At least the Trump organization. So they would make filings with various state and local authorities saying that their buildings weren't worth much."

• on page 179, "Sometime thereafter the FBI -- I understand Chris severed his relationship with the FBI out of concern that he didn't know what was happening inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people and that we didn't really understand what was going on. So he stopped dealing with them."

• on page 296, "We learned that Felix Sater had some connections with these people, and it's been more recently in the media that he's helping the government of Kazakhstan to recover this money. There's been media reports that the money went into the Trump Soho or it went into the company that built the Trump Soho. I can't remember the name."

It's important when you read this stuff to remember that the GOP knows all of this - all of this - and their reaction has been to bury it. They don't care at all about the substance. They don't care that the President of the United States might be being blackmailed and that our intelligence community is concerned about this. They just want to make sure you don't know about it. These people are fucking cowards and bordering on treachery.

All of you Trumptards are shytstains on the United States of America.

Rigged for Trump wrote:

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All of you Trumptards are shytstains on the United States of America.

This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.

Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.

DiscoGary wrote:

Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.

Umm . . . ever heard of Donald J Trump?

Only Trumptards suck. Not all Americans. You do not get the right to call yourself an American and support a Russian-backed dictator.

DiscoGary wrote:

Rigged for Trump wrote:

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All of you Trumptards are shytstains on the United States of America.

This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.

Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.

AND as Flagpole has said all along, Your kind did not actually win the election. You stole it.

9/30/16 GOP Blocks Probes Into Trump-Russia Ties

12/11/16 Obama and Congress Knew About Russian Hacking—And They Did Nothing (context: "McConnell was nakedly partisan in his decision to stifle the intelligence", "[Obama] wanted bipartisan support—and when McConnell rebuffed this effort ... the White House decided to take the cautious route to “name and shame” the Russians").

12/12/16 McConnell rejects special panel for Russia election allegations

2/14,/17 Speaker Paul Ryan declines to support independent Russian investigation after Flynn's resignation

2/27/17 GOP intelligence chairman Devin Nunes: “There’s no evidence of anything” regarding Russia-Trump campaign contacts

3/1/17 House Democrats Lose Another Bid To Investigate Trump, But Don't Plan To Quit

3/21/17 Day 1 of "Devin Nunes colluded with the White House to obstruct the Russia probe" (Timeline here)

3/29/17 House Republicans cancel all hearings on Russian investigation, blame Democrats

5/9/17 F.B.I. Director James Comey Is Fired by Trump

5/10/17 James Comey Fired: McConnell Rejects Calls for Prosecutor

05/10/17 Paul Ryan rejects calls for special prosecutor in Russia investigation

5/17/17 GOP blocks House vote on independent Russia-Trump investigation

5/31/17 Nunes ‘acted separately’ from House Russia probe by unilaterally issuing subpoenas on ‘unmasking’

08/28/2017 Republican floats measure to kill Mueller probe after 6 months

10/10/17 Nunes Subpoenaed Firm Behind Trump Dossier Without Telling Democrats

11/3/17 Republicans seek special counsel's removal from Russia probe

~December, Nunes leading multiple House Intelligence Committee Republicans in a secret investigation into Mueller without telling the Democrats in committee (in an obvious effort to discredit Mueller and the investigation he's leading)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/devin-nunes-targeting-mueller-and-the-fbi-alarms-democrats-and-some-republicans-with-his-tactics/2017/12/30/b8181ebc-eb02-11e7-9f92-10a2203f6c8d_story.html

This is Oprah:

"I'm Oprah, the spokesperson for Weight Watchers but can't control my weight. I tell you how to run your marriage but won’t commit. I tell you how to raise your kids but I’m too selfish to have any. I knew about Weinstein, but support 'MeToo'. but, hey, I’m black & a woman!"

Rigged for Trump wrote:

They don't care that the President of the United States might be being blackmailed.

Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.

Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.