Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Definition of wrote:

I Think wrote:

Ummm . . . hooray for you on being "first generation latino". Not quite sure how that is relevant to anything. But perhaps you are just Flagpoling - trying to make the thread about you rather than about the topic on hand.

WHOA WHOA WHOA- Please don't confuse being self-centered with FLAGPOLING.

Everyone here knows that "Flagpoling" is "epicly, massively, spectacularly failing at something..... especially while being 100% confident right up to the exact moment of said epic fail."

Well, you do have a good point. I will have to concede.

Fat hurts wrote:

Perfect decision wrote:

He's appropriately putting the responsibility on Congress here. How many election cycles have you heard about "immigration reform"? And how much has changed? This is beautiful. And it puts all these politicians that just want to kick the can and protect their jobs in a tough spot.

I don't think it's a perfect decision at all. Congress could still choose to do nothing on DACA and that's probably what will happen. There is almost no pressure on congress to change this right now.

It's completely up to Trump to rescind Obama's policy or leave it alone. In other words, Trump's tactic probably won't work.

I believe you may be wrong on one thing here.

DACA's constitutionality is deeply in question, and believe several states were about to challenge it on constitutional grounds. The issue is whether the WH can take such control over the immigration process, vs. Congress.

So Trump was in a bit of a bind...his conservative supreme court might have ruled his DACA policy unconstituonal. Embarassing. So this throws the ball in Congress' court.

Which is where it should be, 100%.

Will Irma and Harvey affect federal funding for the "wall". If Irma is a big disaster I assume Fed $ for FEMA will be huge. Does this impact next years budget?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

eric a blair wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I don't think it's a perfect decision at all. Congress could still choose to do nothing on DACA and that's probably what will happen. There is almost no pressure on congress to change this right now.

It's completely up to Trump to rescind Obama's policy or leave it alone. In other words, Trump's tactic probably won't work.

I believe you may be wrong on one thing here.

DACA's constitutionality is deeply in question, and believe several states were about to challenge it on constitutional grounds. The issue is whether the WH can take such control over the immigration process, vs. Congress.

So Trump was in a bit of a bind...his conservative supreme court might have ruled his DACA policy unconstituonal. Embarassing. So this throws the ball in Congress' court.

Which is where it should be, 100%.

I agree that congress should do something, but I don't think they will any time soon. Nobody is going to blame congress for dealing with Harvey relief and keeping the government open instead of trying to hash out a solution on DACA.

My contention is that kicking this to congress isn't going to work. Trump gets blamed for cruelty. Bad tactic.

Perfect decision wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Exactly. Dems don't care one bit about "Dreamers"- they're just desperate for the votes they have gradually lost from the middle class over the last few election cycles.

Great to hear your personal aspect to this as well. And great posts from you over the last 2 years.

Since I believe you were one of the posters that predicted Trump winning from 2015... If I can ask, what region of the country are you from? Is it a state that is solidly blue or red, or a swing state?

Actually I picked Trump in 2016. Born in NJ- blue forever and will stay that way. Moved to South FL- live in a blue county (Broward) in a mostly red state and with Irma on the way, I'm getting the hell out of here. Later...

He persuaded people not to vote for Hillary?

Fat hurts wrote:

Child Laws wrote:

Such a child cannot break the law. Their parents, yes.

The reason DACA was created by Obama was that Republicans refused to address the above issue out of political spite. Now you are seeing many of those Republicans realize the error they made.

DACA is supported by a large percentage of Democrats, and about one-half of Republicans. Trump is trying to appease a dwindling base. That is his error. Congress will put DACA back. Trump will then do something else; something ignorant as usual.

This "master negotiator" hasn't led on any single issue since becoming president. I can't think of a single time where Trump used the power of persuasion to get people behind him and get something done.

Trump never leads on any issue. He's not a leader.

its_baddude wrote:

He persuaded people not to vote for Hillary?

It worked on brain-washable simpletons, just like you.

So if we catch someone crossing the border illegally we should grant them legal status? If a parent brings 3 kids across the border illegally, we deport the parent and leave the minor? What nonsense is coming out of your brain? You either enforce the laws or embolden people to break it because you don't enforce it.You only care because Trump is involved. I have pointed out before that U.S. had a wet foot dry foot policy for Cubans that could make it to the US. Many Cubans trekked across South America through Mexico to reach the border. Obama ended that policy after the Democrats lost the election and left many stranded at the Mexican border. Where was the compassion to bring the people stuck in Mexico in? Where were the stories on the NY Times and Washington Post about the horror stories they endured crossing South American countries. The Cubans generally vote republican, so democrats don't give a rat's ass.Yet, we have to read about the outrage of criminals being force to wear pink underwear!

L L wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Illegal is the word you use. It is not the word to describe the people.

People cannot be illegal.

They can commit an illegal act, but they cannot be illegal.

A person brought here as a child illegally is not an illegal person nor are they a person that committed an illegal act.

I think all of us that are concerned about DACA are simultaneously concerned about homeless veterans as well as other homeless people.

How can you quote me and not read a word I wrote?

I said the child is not an illegal person and did not commit an illlegal act.

I did not say anything about legal status.

I certainly didn't say to grant them legal status while they are being caught crossing the border.

You are so dishonest. Almost Trump-like

We're not talking about catching someone bringing their child in.

We are talking about people who have been living here for years and came as children and only know this place as home.

They live as American as anyone but lack the paperwork

The idea is to process them to get the required paperwork as they contribute to society. As opposed to tearing them away and dumping them in in a place they don't know with people they don't know.

Most people in congress, including many Republicans want to keep DACA.

The only issue with it is they want it passed by the legislative process vs executive order.

But their real problem is that Obama ordered it. That's it.

Most of Trump's moves have been to simply undo anything Obama did regardless if it was good or not.

No. Hillary did that.

its_baddude wrote:

He persuaded people not to vote for Hillary?

Fat hurts wrote:

This "master negotiator" hasn't led on any single issue since becoming president. I can't think of a single time where Trump used the power of persuasion to get people behind him and get something done.

Trump never leads on any issue. He's not a leader.

eric a blair wrote:

So Trump was in a bit of a bind...his conservative supreme court might have ruled his DACA policy unconstituonal. Embarassing. So this throws the ball in Congress' court.

Which is where it should be, 100%.

Trump is only doing the simple part, revocation. What he can't seem to do, same as with health care, is provide an alternative. It's becoming a recurring theme.

Lie Uflighted wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

So Trump was in a bit of a bind...his conservative supreme court might have ruled his DACA policy unconstituonal. Embarassing. So this throws the ball in Congress' court.

Which is where it should be, 100%.

Trump is only doing the simple part, revocation. What he can't seem to do, same as with health care, is provide an alternative. It's becoming a recurring theme.

Exactly. That would require leadership.

They are not being treated as criminals. Criminals go to jail. They are just being returned to their country of origin.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

Fat hurts wrote:

I agree that congress should do something, but I don't think they will any time soon. Nobody is going to blame congress for dealing with Harvey relief and keeping the government open instead of trying to hash out a solution on DACA.

My contention is that kicking this to congress isn't going to work. Trump gets blamed for cruelty. Bad tactic.

You seem to be talking about what you wish would happen. Or perhaps what you think should happen.

What will happen is that Trump will NOT get the blame. He is a master at pointing his tiny little fingers at others. He NEVER takes the fall.

Count on blame to be spread among congress, fake news, Obama and the elites.

LaughingOutLoud++ wrote:

Democrats are grannies.

Yes, many dems are grandmothers.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

Since the beginning of time, children have suffered due to bad decisions of their parents, who broke the law & put kids in harms way. They are no strangers to the culture of their parents. Don't believe the hysteria & lies.

I get the impression that the libs here have no idea of the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Trump continues to undo Obama's train wrecks, one day at a time.