Runningart2004 wrote:The largest trade agreement ever....before Trump tore it up.Details please?
Runningart2004 wrote:The largest trade agreement ever....before Trump tore it up.Details please?
Sledge_hammer wrote:
Trumpism is all about the idea that honesty doesn't matter. Integrity doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is winning for the sake of winning.
So fwumpers never think about whether their memes and statements are true. Why would they waste time thinking about that?
Trumpism is about pragmatism. Petty argument doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is accomplishment for the sake of America.[/quote]
Get serious. Tiny talked constantly about winning. He certainly didn't go into policy details.
This is the Twitter presidency. Petty argument is the order of the day every day.
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Sledge_hammer wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Trumpism is all about the idea that honesty doesn't matter. Integrity doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is winning for the sake of winning.
So fwumpers never think about whether their memes and statements are true. Why would they waste time thinking about that?
Trumpism is about pragmatism. Petty argument doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is accomplishment for the sake of America.
Get serious. Tiny talked constantly about winning. He certainly didn't go into policy details.
This is the Twitter presidency. Petty argument is the order of the day every day.
That’s a paltry list when compared to Trump.
Flagpole wrote:
It is absolutely insane to continue to support Trump at this point.
INCORRECT! Sorry, couldn't resist.
Trump will continue to appoint conservative pro business judges to various circuit courts around the country. He'll also probably try to continue his rampage of deregulation. In light of that, supporting him is not really insane if you want to see a conservative agenda pushed. Actually liking him and thinking he's a good person is insane.
I’m what way? Should I find some other garbage to link to? Did I fail to mention the “Beer Summit”?
I try to look at presidential accomplishments in 4 major ways:
1. How did he affect the economy (assuming one believes a president can even have such an affect)
2. How did he affect the people?
3. How did he affect the world?
4. What will stand long after he’s gone?
Try to have an unbiased opinion.
Trump surely has had a positive effect on the economy....again if you believe presidents can. The sky hasn’t fallen. But he still has 2 yrs and I’m not convinced the tariffs on China will end up a net positive since companies are already losing money and laying off workers.
His America First isolationist stance doesn’t play well on the world stage and he seems to side with totalitarian regimes without question.
His SCOTUS picks, so far, will be his legacy. This might be good or bad. How long does the spectre of the Kavanaugh appointment hang over the court? It’ll probably be quickly forgotten just as we have forgotten about Thomas’s transgressions....people have a stupid short attention span.
Ultimately I believe the result of the Mueller Investigation will define his presidency no matter what else he does. Even so, the public opinion and the political spin will be more important than the actual results. He’s already pulling a Clinton and casting doubt, which ultimately worked in Bill Clinton’s favor too.
Alan
Fat hurts wrote:
Boys on the Track wrote:
And calling him Tiny makes you feel like a big boy?
I think calling him "Tiny" is an outstanding political strategy. Everyone on the left should start calling him "Tiny".
In a single word you bring to mind his infidelity and his general smallness. It's branding at its best.
I love a good race to the bottom!
Obama's average approval rating from his 8 year tenure was 47%. Stop trying to insinuate otherwise. 47%. That blows, especially considering the MSM was fawning over him the entire time.
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I think calling him "Tiny" is an outstanding political strategy. Everyone on the left should start calling him "Tiny".
In a single word you bring to mind his infidelity and his general smallness. It's branding at its best.
I love a good race to the bottom!
Then pay attention because we are being lead in the fastest race to the bottom evah!
Dark society wrote:
Obama's average approval rating from his 8 year tenure was 47%. Stop trying to insinuate otherwise. 47%. That blows, especially considering the MSM was fawning over him the entire time.
Hmmm well Trump's 39% right now so if 47% is bad then yikes
According to Gallup:
Bush had a war that skyrocketed his approval and he only avg. 49. Left with a 34.
Clinton had a 55 avg. Left with a 66.
HW Bush had an average of 60...60. Left with a 55. Lost re-election.
Reagan had an avg of 52. Left with a 63.
I would say in today’s partisan climate 45-50% is going to be your high mark.
Alan
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I think calling him "Tiny" is an outstanding political strategy. Everyone on the left should start calling him "Tiny".
In a single word you bring to mind his infidelity and his general smallness. It's branding at its best.
I love a good race to the bottom!
Indeed!!
Sledge_hammer wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, Trump calls Stormy Daniels "Horseface", and she responds by calling him "Tiny".
Bested by a porn star. Nice.
Now, of course he had sex with her, and he is lying about it, but no matter, it is ridiculous for the President of the United States to take any time out of his day to respond on Twitter to such a thing.
The weird thing is that he is such a bad person and President that this hardly even registers with anyone.
Yeah, he is such a bad President that he has achieved far more than Obama could ever dream of in 20 months.
Signing executive orders and getting fortunate that there were two Supreme Court seats to fill is not evidence of any real achievement. If the next President wanted to, he or she could sit down and sign executive orders all day and surpass Trump's number of achievements in a couple days.
Three main things from him on the campaign trail:
1) Lock her up.
2) Build a "big beautiful wall that Mexico will pay for."
3) Repeal and replace Obamacare.
The results:
1) Hillary is not locked up. It is Trump associates who have been locked up, and more is coming there.
2) There has been no movement on the wall even though Trump lies and says there is, and Mexico is not even in the conversation anymore about paying for it,
3) We still have Obamacare.
Oh...and he's a criminal whose behavior has emboldened dictators and bat-intention leaders around the world.
Lets not also forget that he said he would get rid of the national debt in 8 years. That shows a level of understanding that is beyond stupid. Of course he hasn't done that and has only greatly increased it during a period of a hot economy and very low unemployment. Nice.
1) The idea that the Clintons killed anyone let alone all the people conspiracy theorists say they did has long been debunked -
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/2) Well, she didn't call him hung like a horse. She called him "Tiny".
3) You don't have to have been in the room with them to know he had sex with her. I guess every woman should just go to him and say they will tell the world he had sex with her while he was married to Melania unless they give her $130,000. Seems reasonable. Of COURSE he had sex with her. You don't pay hush money like that if you are him if you didn't.
4) While Hillary didn't do the things you say she did, she could have done all of it and worse, and it STILL would have nothing to do with how criminal Trump is. You don't defend someone by saying..."look how bad this other person is".
You should stop believing in unsubstantiated nutjob conspiracy theories.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Dark society wrote:
Obama's average approval rating from his 8 year tenure was 47%. Stop trying to insinuate otherwise. 47%. That blows, especially considering the MSM was fawning over him the entire time.
According to Gallup:
Bush had a war that skyrocketed his approval and he only avg. 49. Left with a 34.
Clinton had a 55 avg. Left with a 66.
HW Bush had an average of 60...60. Left with a 55. Lost re-election.
Reagan had an avg of 52. Left with a 63.
I would say in today’s partisan climate 45-50% is going to be your high mark.
Alan
If Obama was as popular and effective as you are implying then why did his political party lose so many seats in both Congress, the Senate, and at the local level? If he were nearly as popular as you are stating as he was leaving office Hillary would've won in a landslide.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
It is absolutely insane to continue to support Trump at this point.
INCORRECT! Sorry, couldn't resist.
Trump will continue to appoint conservative pro business judges to various circuit courts around the country. He'll also probably try to continue his rampage of deregulation. In light of that, supporting him is not really insane if you want to see a conservative agenda pushed. Actually liking him and thinking he's a good person is insane.
Nope...still insane. He's a criminal. He lies constantly. He doesn't believe in the rule of law. He is destroying our relationships with our allies. He is now defending Saudi Arabia. He is the most sinful man by far to ever be our President and yet much of the Christian Conservatives still back him. It is INSANE to put a political agenda above all else.
Flagpole wrote:
Racket wrote:
INCORRECT! Sorry, couldn't resist.
Trump will continue to appoint conservative pro business judges to various circuit courts around the country. He'll also probably try to continue his rampage of deregulation. In light of that, supporting him is not really insane if you want to see a conservative agenda pushed. Actually liking him and thinking he's a good person is insane.
Nope...still insane. He's a criminal. He lies constantly. He doesn't believe in the rule of law. He is destroying our relationships with our allies. He is now defending Saudi Arabia. He is the most sinful man by far to ever be our President and yet much of the Christian Conservatives still back him. It is INSANE to put a political agenda above all else.
Nope! Not insane! Only care about repealing Roe v Wade? Congrats, you're one step closer! Only care about getting richer and growing your business unabated? Congrats, you're many steps ahead because of Trump.
Also lol @ most sinful man to be our president (as if you could even quantify that). Plenty of presidents had a less than stellar past that included fraud, deceit, infidelity, and even slave owning!
Don't be so hyperbolic. At the end of the day, Trump represents the R agenda. People support him and will continue to do so for the greater good of the GOP regardless of his dipsh!ttery.
Give Me A Break wrote:
If Obama was as popular and effective as you are implying then why did his political party lose so many seats in both Congress, the Senate, and at the local level? If he were nearly as popular as you are stating as he was leaving office Hillary would've won in a landslide.
Meh.
1) Hillary was a flawed candidate and NOT Obama.
2) Hillary also has the disadvantage of being a woman. Women are still not seen as leaders in this country like they are in other countries, and this opinion isn't just from men.
3) Trump had a lot of help from Russia to win this election, and it will be proven that he and his campaign were in on it.
To get back to reality though...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
. . . getting fortunate that there were two Supreme Court seats to fill is not evidence of any real achievement. . . .
It wasn't entirely "fortune", but if there is credit to be given it should go to Mitch McConnell who worked diligently to subvert the federal bench appointment process (at all levels, not just the Supreme Court) during the latter part of the Obama administration.
1) I didn't say they wouldn't continue to support him. I said it is INSANE to do so...because it is. If you ONLY care about Roe v Wade or getting richer to the exclusion of all other things, then that is insane.
2) Slavery is of course a different issue...different time, different laws, etc. Start with the fact that LYING is a sin...based on sheer numbers, he has the sinful championship locked up. When you add in his infidelities, his disrespect of his father (when there isn't any evidence that he SHOULD disrespect his father who gave him everything), and his epic and deep criminal behavior (that will be proven), there is no doubt he is the most sinful ever. I look at the Ten Commandments, and the only one I don't believe he for sure hasn't committed is murder...and since he's amoral, just give that some time.
INSANE to support Trump at this point...how do you support a criminal who lies to your face constantly? Insanity is the reason.
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