2015 NESCAC Cross Country

1. I think you're lost. Unwarranted Midwest mutual fellatio can be found in the DIII chat.

2. Hey Colby guys, come on out of your bowdoin-reject caves and let us know what's up with Chelimo. That is, if Waterville gets internet access.

Unwarranted? Of all the people mentioned in his post, Bijan and Hussein have done the least at previous National Championships. Bijan was 2nd in the 10k behind La Mere and 15th at XC last year. Hussein's best finish was 30th at XC. Until they actually race LaMere, Thorson and Campbell (4 national titles between the 3 of them), they should be considered the underdogs with a decent shot, not the favorites by any means.

Incest midwest wrote:

1. I think you're lost. Unwarranted Midwest mutual fellatio can be found in the DIII chat.

2. Hey Colby guys, come on out of your bowdoin-reject caves and let us know what's up with Chelimo. That is, if Waterville gets internet access.

Nah, we're good. thanks tho.

Could you send some trainers to Brunswick though? Might motivate them to actually train once in a while.

I hear that Chelimo is out for the season because whatever he was dealing with in the calf (bone calcification?) last year has returned. Seems unfortunate, since he was definitely in shape and on track to be top-10.

Through the grapevine wrote:

I hear that Chelimo is out for the season because whatever he was dealing with in the calf (bone calcification?) last year has returned. Seems unfortunate, since he was definitely in shape and on track to be top-10.

Very unfortunate for him and Colby as a team. Him and Eastman are both juniors so they'll have a good core next year.

Deyo should be running at Conn College tomorrow if he's healthy. MIT Needs him now that Godwin appears to be coming back into form if they want top 3 at regionals.

Cattanach tweeted a picture of him in a boot so he's probably out. However, if there is anybody who can qualify for nationals off of mostly cross training it's him.

Little 3s, Amherst is going to roll. Wesleyan second. Williams third .

colby guy wrote:

Incest midwest wrote:

1. I think you're lost. Unwarranted Midwest mutual fellatio can be found in the DIII chat.

2. Hey Colby guys, come on out of your bowdoin-reject caves and let us know what's up with Chelimo. That is, if Waterville gets internet access.

Nah, we're good. thanks tho.

Could you send some trainers to Brunswick though? Might motivate them to actually train once in a while.

Why would they train when horowitz never once ran in the summer and still managed to be an all-american 8 times. Although for all we know they might be training and suck anyways, they could be fourth at the state meet this year if the USM freshman have a good day

Wait I thought MIT was supposed to be good this year?

what's going on? wrote:

Wait I thought MIT was supposed to be good this year?

Deyo is DONE. That's what happened. When was the last time Conn College beat MIT?

Hoagland was only a few seconds behind Bosworth.

Hoagland has always been good though.

In this wonderful Amherst silence, I'd like to mention that Bates has really exceeded my expectations this year. Nice job guys.

Amherst is never silent. We shall win NESCACS!

Does Hoagland have a nationals shot? It can't be he goes to Trinity

Jumboss wrote:

Does Hoagland have a nationals shot? It can't be he goes to Trinity

Ryan Bak of Trinity won the NCAAs in 2002 so a Hoagland victory (highly unlikely) would not be unprecedented.

With NESCAC's going off in less than 168 hours, let's take a look at how the race will play out.

1st: Williams. As they've shown the past few years, they run too well this time of year to be taken down. Add that to the momentum gained from an upset (lol at actually typing that) victory at Little 3's, and the Ephs have a guaranteed victory. While they won't repeat their 1-3-4 finish from a year ago, expect them to put 5 in the top 20. (58 points)

2nd: Amherst. The Lord Jeffs have had a very strong start to the season. They beat Williams at Purple Valley, but seem to have regressed a bit in their past few outings. Will they follow the typical Amherst track as the Championship season arrives? I say no. However, Purple Valley will be their peak for the season- they won't reign supreme as the top Cac team from here on out. Having the winner and another top 5-10 guy certainly helps at a meet like this, but they'll need just a bit more. (63 points)

3rd: Tufts. They'll be way back from the top 2, but with O'Connor leading the charge and Nichols rounding into form, Tufts provides too much front-running for the other teams to handle. Similar to above, the 3-5 needs to show up. Their X-factors have shown potential in track, so this could be a meet where the Jumbos surprise some folks. Not me though- I'm guaranteeing a Jumbo bronze. (Points from here on out are so far from the top that I won't even bother calculating).

4th: Bates. A very solid pack with a small spread. Pair that with no low sticks, and that, my friends, is how you cap your ceiling at 4th place. Unless someone breaks out, I do not see them doing much damage. Honestly, I'm nervous even putting them above 5th place because, let's face it, John Stansel's not walking through that door. Tully Hannan could be another story. For that reason, I give them 4th.

5th: Wesleyan. My least confident pick. Could be 3rd, could be 8th depending on the day. Despite the home course advantage, I just can't put confidence in a team that dropped the ball like they did at Little 3's. Which team shows up in Middletown on Halloween? Depending on how it goes for them, things could get scary.

6th: Middlebury. History tells me they'll be top 4, AT LEAST top 5; that's why I'm Pre-Med. Too much racing. Is that Outdoor Track approaching? I can already smell the Midd boys' burnout from here. Turn back the Klockenkamper. Prove me wrong.

7th: Colby. If Chelimo is out, so are their hopes for a respectable finish. Silas Beastman will do his usual thing, but there are no one man shows in NESCAC XC. Not even Like Meduc could carry his team to a top 7 finish at Conference champs. Luckily for these guys, the Cac is in the gutter this year.

8th: Bowdoin. Typically run tough late in the season. I think they'll have their best race of the year. Unfortunately, this won't really amount to much in the grand scheme.

9th: Conn. Ran well at their home course last week, yet have been frail otherwise. Bosworth is poised to run well, but only if he decides to tempo the course. If he races, things may not go as the Camels had hoped for.

10th: Trinity. Hoagland has found his Indoor Track form again. Best kick in the Cac (Tufts Last Chance anyone?) and a strong base. Top 5 is in the works. His team, however, will be lucky to crack the Top 10.

11th: Hamilton. Do they have a team this year?

Let me know what yall think for individuals.

That looks about right. I wouldn't be too decisive about the top couple though, since both times the margins were razor thin. The dual meet score between the two would probably be pretty damn close to identical between Purple Valley and Little Three's, Amherst a few points under at PV and Williams a few points under a month later. That said, the edge, both historically and just in recent performances, does go to Williams.

Hamilton 11th?! Are you out of your mind? Look at the results from their last meet?

1 Pfander, Charles SR-4 Hamilton 5:06.7 25:24.8 1

2 Moses, Jack SR-4 Hamilton 5:07.4 25:28.3 2

3 Pierce, Jack JR-3 Hamilton 5:08.7 25:34.6 3

4 Sullivan, Harrison SR-4 Hamilton 5:09.4 25:38.3 4

6 Abelson, Evan SR-4 Hamilton 5:12.6 25:54.2 6

9 Whipple, Henry SO-2 Hamilton 5:15.0 26:05.7 9

10 Freeman, David SR-4 Hamilton 5:15.3 26:07.6 10

That is by no means the greatest top 7 out there, but cannot be even close to 11th. At the very least 8th, but I'd put them in 7th.

P.S. I don't attend Hamilton.

Alumn

I heard the course was short. Also they tempoed. Also I hear they are academically ineligible. Also you tots magots attend hamilton.

The course Hamilton ran on is definitely short. Their number 1 is a 31:35 guy, which is pretty solid. Their 2's PR in the 5k is 16:28... just let that sink in. Their 3 has run 32:05. Their 4 is mid 15's in the 5k and their 5 barely broke 16 in the 5k. None of these guys are sub 15 guys, and besides Pfander, none of them would make a varsity squad for the top 5 teams in the Cac. Hamilton will surely DFL this weekend.

This is probably pretty close to accurate, but this is just too funny: "Unless someone breaks out, I do not see them doing much damage."