Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread

dontdonate wrote:
Please share with us his credible explanation for making up a race in Wyoming that he did so well in. Just that ONE story please. Come on, please?

Wait let me grab a beer and get comfortable in my EZ chair.

Okay, I'm listening.

Kevin52

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 1:34PM - in reply to ouch1000

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Yes, and the week prior I sent the same info to the standard registration@baa.org email link from the BAA website. No response from either at this time.

Everyone here, whom Kip has finished in front of, should do the same. Just one voice from the wilderness will probably not get it done. He cheated to finish ahead of me in 2010 and I will do my part to see it doesn't happen again.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4254063&page=1#ixzz1ZkFPsB6h

scotth

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 1:37PM - in reply to ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs

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ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs wrote:

Some of us are runners, and we fully understand how races operate. Kip has been very open about addressing accusations with us.

I'm going to say this just once: all posts that've praised Kip have been written in the same writing style - Kip's. You needn't spend energy responding to that kind of nonsense. It's either Kip - or a LR troll. Let it go.

For What It Matters

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 1:38PM - in reply to dontdonate

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dontdonate wrote:

OK, I know I said I would not ask but I'm laughing so hard here I can hardly stay in my chair.

Please share with us his credible explanation for making up a race in Wyoming that he did so well in. Just that ONE story please. Come on, please?

Desperate attempt to gain eligibility for the 50 states club?

Fell Runner

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:15PM - in reply to ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs

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OK Kip, convince me that the West Wyoming Marathon really happened and convince the Race Director of the Delaware Marathon that you ran a legitimate race.

Loofa Dog

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:20PM - in reply to ouch1000

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ouch1000 wrote:

Has anyone successfully contacted the BAA official Barbara Sicuso yet to have Litton's registration revoked? If not, one of us needs to get off our duff and do it sooner rather than later. Is she still the head of registration for BAA? Surely these folks can be convinced to keep Litton out of Boston.

I have a stupid question... Has anyone looked to see what Kip's splits were in the previous Boston Marathons he has run. If he were to cheat, wouldn't it be smart for him to start with the bandits that all run. He would not look out of place without a number and he could have the chip in his pocket so when he crosses the first mat nobody would be any wiser.

If the mat was still on when the bandits go after the last corral he would have a offical start time right?

ExCoastRanger

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:22PM - in reply to ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs

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ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs wrote:
Some of us are runners, and we fully understand how races operate. Kip has been very open about addressing accusations with us. They have all been discussed and he has provided logical and credible explanations, in many cases backed by evidence and/or witnesses. He has shared with us email correspondences with reporters and race directors that contradict posts here that pass for gospel. We are quite satisfied. We don't want to put words in his mouth but the chances are less than zero that he will personally respond on a forum where people are anonymous.

To us here, based on explanations, evidence and witnesses, it seems as if Kip goes to the clothing check-in at the race and says, "Here are my sweats and my morals. I'll pick 'em up when I finish."
If he has offered you proof that contradicts quite a bit of really good research on this thread, I suggest you share it with us if he won't if you really believe what you are saying.

Loofa Dog

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:32PM - in reply to ouch1000

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ouch1000 wrote:

Has anyone successfully contacted the BAA official Barbara Sicuso yet to have Litton's registration revoked? If not, one of us needs to get off our duff and do it sooner rather than later. Is she still the head of registration for BAA? Surely these folks can be convinced to keep Litton out of Boston.

I just called them, I am to forward some information on him tonight. The lady's contact information who was posted here is incorrect. They are going to take this seriously. Does anyone have the contact information for the marathon RD who DQed him?

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:38PM - in reply to ouch1000

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I wrote a note to her...I'll let you know if I hear back from the BAA.

brakey

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 2:39PM - in reply to ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs

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ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs wrote:

Some of us are runners...

You know how we know you're not runners? Because there are no logical or credible explanations for 15min chip times, and walking through starting lines in disguise, and missing checkpoints, and stopping midrace to change clothes, and passing runners who were never passed. Few people would care if such behavior didn't result in cheating one's peers out of awards and prize money, but they did. A high school runner would be able to understand this.

Junk Master

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/3/2011 3:19PM - in reply to brakey

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Some of us are dentists too. How many have made up races?

SOKLR

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/4/2011 1:03AM - in reply to Junk Master

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just want to say THANKS to the mods for restoring this thread!!!

why ohhh why

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/4/2011 1:13AM - in reply to ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs

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ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs wrote:

Kip has been very open about addressing accusations with us.

WoW OK, are you the real Kip litton, sitting there on your butt in Davison, MI?
We've tried to get into contact with Kip numerous times.

off course Oscar

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/4/2011 7:26AM - in reply to why ohhh why

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Unfortunately he will somehow make money off of this.

You may or may not remember me in the early threads...regardless I finally checked back in after seeing Scott was still on the case (I'm from Michigan as well).

I said it was quite simple from the beginning and it "really" is. Stay at the back of the pack and work your way up to a point and then get off the course. Don't worry, you will never see "those" runners again.

Get back on, regardless of how (there are several ways), and you've put yourself back in the race. If, that's if a runner sees you coming out of the woods or wherever, you were taking a potty break. He or she will have to dispute and prove it.

Coincidentally, cover your number even though you know you aren't suppose to do that and claim to be a real runner.

Don't show up at check points except possibly those near the end, how convenient.

Run 5k races and 10 mile races at a slower pace that is to be expected and cheat at those as well (Bobby Crim?). Then what the hell, cheat on a damn relay as well? Shameless!

Then get caught.

Now people do tons of research trying to prove you are a cheat, which is fine.

Then write a book or send your story to Lifetime Television for Women and you have now become richer than the average dentist.

Now do the talk show thing and tell your story.

This is nothing more than Rosie Ruiz and Oscar Miranda taken to a whole different level. Rosie and Oscar both bit off more than they could chew. Rosie going for first place and not knowing what intervals were when asked and Oscar running a time that he couldn't maintain for 10k on his best day, then of course retiring. I had the priviledge to talk to Will Cloney once and I think he was too nice in even giving Oscar a second chance, but... I guess he had to.

Why did this fella from Michigan do these things in races, because he could.

What is he? Nothing more than a cheat who unfortunately will be rewarded.

Wait for it folks, just wait for it.

no bull son

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/4/2011 8:46AM - in reply to off course Oscar

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how is kip going to be rewarded?

No Shit Sherlock

RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 10/4/2011 10:03AM - in reply to off course Oscar

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off course Oscar wrote:
I said it was quite simple from the beginning and it "really" is. Stay at the back of the pack and work your way up to a point and then get off the course. Don't worry, you will never see "those" runners again.
Get back on, regardless of how (there are several ways), and you've put yourself back in the race. If, that's if a runner sees you coming out of the woods or wherever, you were taking a potty break. He or she will have to dispute and prove it.

I may be flattering us generally when I say that most of us had all that figured out. I would guess that what we are interested in in the minutae such as the strategies to hit all the mats, the transport between the mats, the outfit changes, avoiding being spotted generally, the preparation involved, any details we may have missed in terms of creating the fake races and so on. We could all speculate on these but we'd like to hear it from the master.

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