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Great news folks!
Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 10:34PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread
duh...
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 10:43PM - in reply to Great news folks! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dude, cutting a course in a major way rates worse than doping, no?
Skip Lipton
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:01PM - in reply to duh... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seems strange that we can have threads calling runners dopers, but aren't even allowed to discuss some other unusual performances. I would prefer a thread with some ground rules, so that it didn't get deleted, than an anything goes thread, that lasts 1-2 days (or hours) then disappears.
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:02PM - in reply to Skip Lipton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
it had about 200 posts within a couple of days.

Rojo said he might start one
swedishbasteve
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:14PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I hope that the fine folks @ LetsRun.com allow this to be seen to its conclusion. This guy is a scam and it has to be recognized by everyone. Marathon season will be upon us shortly, and Dr. B.S. will surely enter some.
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:21PM - in reply to swedishbasteve Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

swedishbasteve wrote:

I hope that the fine folks @ LetsRun.com allow this to be seen to its conclusion. This guy is a scam and it has to be recognized by everyone. Marathon season will be upon us shortly, and Dr. B.S. will surely enter some.

+1
Who Cares?
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:23PM - in reply to swedishbasteve Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I can't be the only one that doesn't give a $hit about this topic. It is mildly amusing, but the hard-on that some of you clowns have about him is really annoying. I accept that he cheated, now what? Move on for Christ sake, you sound like a jilted lover. Go boil his kid's rabbit and get it over with.
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:27PM - in reply to Who Cares? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what about fraud/prize monies?
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:29PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think if/when a Kip Litton #3 thread comes about, it may have be a sticky thread at the top because the replies could work their way up to the hundreds+
The Stache
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:32PM - in reply to Skip Lipton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Skip Lipton wrote:

Seems strange that we can have threads calling runners dopers, but aren't even allowed to discuss some other unusual performances. I would prefer a thread with some ground rules, so that it didn't get deleted, than an anything goes thread, that lasts 1-2 days (or hours) then disappears.


This is a good point, actually. Probably the majority of posters on lrc have at one point in time accused some runner of doping. The Brojos have never shied away from trashing dopers and other kinds of cheaters. It does seem very strange that this has either gone unnoticed by them (they've never commented) or that they are actively eluding the hubbub on here. Has a lawyer been in contact with the Brojos?
swedishbasteve
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:33PM - in reply to Who Cares? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Who Cares? wrote:

I can't be the only one that doesn't give a $hit about this topic. It is mildly amusing, but the hard-on that some of you clowns have about him is really annoying. I accept that he cheated, now what? Move on for Christ sake, you sound like a jilted lover. Go boil his kid's rabbit and get it over with.


You're right! Why care about some douche cheater? Why care about some douche winner for that matter? Why care about anything, ever. Maybe I should only care about not being annoying? Throw logic out the window, a small car full of clowns rollin through.
Who Cares?
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:36PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What, he's a ghost now? I'm sure there will be plenty of bean-counters like you, watching every move he makes from now on. If he cheats, he will be caught. Why are you giving this guy so much credit for being able to beat the system? What's the deal with you?
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:39PM - in reply to Who Cares? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Who Cares? wrote:

What, he's a ghost now? I'm sure there will be plenty of bean-counters like you, watching every move he makes from now on. If he cheats, he will be caught. Why are you giving this guy so much credit for being able to beat the system? What's the deal with you?



actually when he's very likely cheating, sometimes he's NOT caught..

examples:

2010 BAA 5K - 17:17
2010 Cox Providence Marathon
2010 St. Louis Marathon
2010 Vermont City Marathon
2010 Gasparilla 5K (Tampa, FL) - 17:33
2010 Gasparilla Marathon
Who Cares?
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:45PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
OK, fair enough. But since you have no problem using his name when you call him a cheat, have the balls to use your name to call him out. I have a real problem when cowards hide behind fake names while they make serious accusations about people with real identities. Put up or shut up. If you don't, guys like me will continue to call you out as the coward that you clearly are. I'll be thrilled to retract that if you give up your name, but we both know that won't happen.
Not Very disappointed anymore
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:48PM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Stache wrote:

[quote]Skip Lipton wrote:

Seems strange that we can have threads calling runners dopers, but aren't even allowed to discuss some other unusual performances. I would prefer a thread with some ground rules, so that it didn't get deleted, than an anything goes thread, that lasts 1-2 days (or hours) then disappears.
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This is a good point, actually. Probably the majority of posters on lrc have at one point in time accused some runner of doping. The Brojos have never shied away from trashing dopers and other kinds of cheaters. It does seem very strange that this has either gone unnoticed by them (they've never commented) or that they are actively eluding the hubbub on here. Has a lawyer been in contact with the Brojos?


Rojo contacted me in regards to repeated posts/an email I'd sent and said he was unaware that the Kip threads had been deleted and that he thinks exposing his cheating is a good thing. He's asked the moderator to not delete Kip Litton threads, but would like there to be only one Kip Litton thread. He also said "maybe I'll start an official kip litton thread", so hopefully he does that soon. He doesn't know how to retrieve the old thread, but with any luck maybe Wejo can and we can link to it from the official thread.
Anyway, I personally plan on honoring his request of keeping it to a central thread, and I encourage others to do so as well.

This is cool - I'm impressed with the LRC community pulling together.
The Stache
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:54PM - in reply to Not Very disappointed anymore Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To be sure, the Brojos do have to be damn careful here. This is a real person who lives in the US, and unlike all us, they are clearly identifiable people associated with this website. If The Brojos are willing to undertake this, they will have to monitor the thread VERY carefully to make sure information is coming in rather than just speculation and name calling. Libel laws certainly must come into play here if the site takes on this issue. Having said that, I applaud any efforts by Letsrun.com and the Brojos to take on any potential cheating happening on the scale that has been accused.
just another person out there
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/6/2011 11:58PM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
is that you kip?
Wise Guy
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/7/2011 12:01AM - in reply to just another person out there Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Who is this Kip Litton cat? Seriously, who the hell is he?!
Not Very disappointed anymore
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/7/2011 12:03AM - in reply to The Stache Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Stache wrote:

To be sure, the Brojos do have to be damn careful here. This is a real person who lives in the US, and unlike all us, they are clearly identifiable people associated with this website. If The Brojos are willing to undertake this, they will have to monitor the thread VERY carefully to make sure information is coming in rather than just speculation and name calling. Libel laws certainly must come into play here if the site takes on this issue. Having said that, I applaud any efforts by Letsrun.com and the Brojos to take on any potential cheating happening on the scale that has been accused.


Excellent point. Maybe we can try to be extra considerate of that "risk" and stick to the facts. Keep speculation and name calling out of it, but make sure that speculation/questions are clearly presented as such.

I imagine everyone would agree that the goal is to piece together the details, in an effort to get him to stop the dishonesty & cheating.

I wish the guy would just realize that he could still still be an inspiration to family/friends by doing his best possible... whatever that is (a 2:55, a 3:55 or even a 5:55 marathon). I can't imagine there's much true satisfaction going about it the way he has been.
Who Cares?
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 1/7/2011 12:07AM - in reply to just another person out there Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Good call, Junior. Attack one of the few adults in the room. I'll put up the challenge again; give up your name if you are going to make serious accusations. Why are you so scared? If you are correct you have nothing to fear. I hope that this Kip thread isn't just a refuge for cowards. Doesn't anyone have the balls to go on record when you publicly attack someone? Bueller? Bueller? Cameron Frye? Though so.
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