Name the top 10 US marathoners right now?

1.Hall

2.Meb

3.Ritz

4.Browne

5.Sell

6.Gabrelison

7.Carney

8.Abdi

9.Young

10.Lehmukle

Josh Cox deserves to be mentioned

Why would you rank Jenkins that high?

Do you still consider KK a marathoner? I'd call him "inactive" if not "retired."

Jenkins falls below both Kara Goucher and Desiree Davila who both beat him by over 4 minutes in Berlin. and that was not a bad race as he has not performed much better than that over the last year.

Anyone know what happend to Rohatinskey?

Bradley Exposed wrote:

Jenkins falls below both Kara Goucher and Desiree Davila who both beat him by over 4 minutes in Berlin. and that was not a bad race as he has not performed much better than that over the last year.

I think it was a bad race since he has run 2:15.

Why would you rank Gabrielson, who hasn't even broken 2:17, that high?

Cabada probably still belongs in some top tens.

You don't have to turn this into guess work. Our sport actually has a stopwatch that makes these decisions. Here is this years best RIGHT NOW. It may change after this fall, but right now this is the list.

Year 2009 Performances- Marathon Road

USA Men

2:09:21 ( 9) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:09:40 a ( 3) Ryan Hall (CA) 14 Oct 1982 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:10:00 (11) Dathan Ritzenhein (OR) 30 Dec 1982 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:15:13 a ( 1) Christopher Raabe (DC) 16 Nov 1978 20 Jun 2009 Duluth MN USA

2:16:31 a (14) Brian Sell (MI) 11 Apr 1978 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:16:49 (24) Dan Browne (OR) 24 Jun 1975 22 Aug 2009 Berlin GER

2:17:05 a (15) Patrick Rizzo (MI) 25 Jul 1983 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:18:41 (36) Matthew Gabrielson (MN) 28 Jun 1978 22 Aug 2009 Berlin GER

2:18:42 ( 1) Matthew Hooley (WI) 27 Jun 1982 03 May 2009 Eugene OR USA

2:18:48 a (16) Lucas Humphrey (MI) 10 Apr 1981 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

and I believe that Cabada could end up on the list but Young has had 2 opportunities and has blown it twice and Carney has NEVER been a top 10 marathoner at years end. We still have 4 months remaining.

Humphrey of Hansons should also be on that list. But Carney belongs somewhere on that list. I'd put him in the same boat as Cabada and Lehumkle.

I'd be curious to see a Top 10 list from the heroic period of American marathoning (pick a year between 1979 and 1982) drawn up at the same point in the year.

Make it a 18-30 month window and you will be on the right track. With maybe some adjustments for weather conditions if your feeling generous.

ARRS.NET wrote:

You don't have to turn this into guess work. Our sport actually has a stopwatch that makes these decisions. Here is this years best RIGHT NOW. It may change after this fall, but right now this is the list.

Year 2009 Performances- Marathon Road

USA Men

2:09:21 ( 9) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:09:40 a ( 3) Ryan Hall (CA) 14 Oct 1982 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:10:00 (11) Dathan Ritzenhein (OR) 30 Dec 1982 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:15:13 a ( 1) Christopher Raabe (DC) 16 Nov 1978 20 Jun 2009 Duluth MN USA

2:16:31 a (14) Brian Sell (MI) 11 Apr 1978 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:16:49 (24) Dan Browne (OR) 24 Jun 1975 22 Aug 2009 Berlin GER

2:17:05 a (15) Patrick Rizzo (MI) 25 Jul 1983 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

2:18:41 (36) Matthew Gabrielson (MN) 28 Jun 1978 22 Aug 2009 Berlin GER

2:18:42 ( 1) Matthew Hooley (WI) 27 Jun 1982 03 May 2009 Eugene OR USA

2:18:48 a (16) Lucas Humphrey (MI) 10 Apr 1981 20 Apr 2009 Boston MA USA

It's a pretty bad year as far a depth. We've had 49 guys run sub 29 10k's on the track this year and only 14 under 2:20. Heck, Josh Cox is 15th on the US list and he did it en-route to his 50k.

Many years ago there was a guy from San Diego who was one of the better, but definitely not the best, runners from the area. While in college at UCLA he ran 28:53 on the track and 2:14 in the marathon. At the time his marathon time wasn't seen as an exceptional performance. It was a very good performance but right in line with his 10k time. If he was running in 2009 his 10k time would rank 35th on the US list but his marathon time would put him 4th!

Seems like there is a problem with the way our marathoners are training now or that, with the exception of Hall, that the bar hasn't been raised yet like it has been in the track events.

Forgot to add that hopefully this changes with the fall marathons coming up.

[quote]aaaaaaaa wrote:

Make it a 18-30 month window and you will be on the right track. With maybe some adjustments for weather conditions if your feeling generous.

Then Lets Combine

2:06:17 ( 5) Ryan Hall (CA/USA) 14 Oct 1982 13 Apr 2008 London ENG

2:09:21 ( 9) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:10:00 (11) Dathan Ritzenhein (OR) 30 Dec 1982 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:13:53.6 (13) Justin Young (CO/USA) 25 Jul 1979 13 Apr 2008 Rotterdam NED

2:14:23 a ( 7) Joshua Rohatinsky (UT/USA) 07 Mar 1982 02 Nov 2008 New York NY USA

2:14:30 a ( 8) Jason Lehmkuhle (MN/USA) 04 Oct 1977 02 Nov 2008 New York NY USA

2:15:13 a ( 1) Christopher Raabe (DC) 16 Nov 1978 20 Jun 2009 Duluth MN USA

2:15:36 ( 2) Matthew Downin (WI/USA) 10 Feb 1977 16 Nov 2008 San Antonio TX USA

2:16:07 (22) Brian Sell (MI/USA) 11 Apr 1978 24 Aug 2008 Beijing CHN

2:16:13 a (10) Nicholas Arciniaga (MI/USA) 30 Jun 1983 21 Apr 2008 Boston MA USA 10

2:16:20 ( 6) Michael Reneau (WI/USA) 07 Apr 1978 12 Oct 2008 Chicago IL USA

Thats the top 11 times from 2008-9

Thread over

Even with your generous window, still no Carney.

2:16:20 is equal to a 29:03 10k which is roughly the 50th fastest time by a US runner this year. How can only 11 guys in the entire country have run an equivalent marathon time?

I thought the marathon was the glamor event? Does running a good marathon only matter to the top few guys?

have boaz chebwoiyo and wesley korir got their USA citizenship yet, it has been rumored they have been trying to get it. in no particular order.

hall

ritz

meb

abdi

sell

rohatinsky

carney

lehmkuhle

chebwoiyo if/when he gets citizenship.

w. korir if/when he gets citizenship.

Webb

Rupp

Lagat

Teg

Solinsky

E Torres

J Torres

German Fernandez

Lets wait for fall yall wrote:

[quote]aaaaaaaa wrote:

Make it a 18-30 month window and you will be on the right track. With maybe some adjustments for weather conditions if your feeling generous.

Then Lets Combine

2:06:17 ( 5) Ryan Hall (CA/USA) 14 Oct 1982 13 Apr 2008 London ENG

2:09:21 ( 9) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:10:00 (11) Dathan Ritzenhein (OR) 30 Dec 1982 26 Apr 2009 London ENG

2:13:53.6 (13) Justin Young (CO/USA) 25 Jul 1979 13 Apr 2008 Rotterdam NED

2:14:23 a ( 7) Joshua Rohatinsky (UT/USA) 07 Mar 1982 02 Nov 2008 New York NY USA

2:14:30 a ( 8) Jason Lehmkuhle (MN/USA) 04 Oct 1977 02 Nov 2008 New York NY USA

2:15:13 a ( 1) Christopher Raabe (DC) 16 Nov 1978 20 Jun 2009 Duluth MN USA

2:15:36 ( 2) Matthew Downin (WI/USA) 10 Feb 1977 16 Nov 2008 San Antonio TX USA

2:16:07 (22) Brian Sell (MI/USA) 11 Apr 1978 24 Aug 2008 Beijing CHN

2:16:13 a (10) Nicholas Arciniaga (MI/USA) 30 Jun 1983 21 Apr 2008 Boston MA USA 10

2:16:20 ( 6) Michael Reneau (WI/USA) 07 Apr 1978 12 Oct 2008 Chicago IL USA

Thats the top 11 times from 2008-9

Thread over

Its amazing to me that despite coming to this site numerous time per day, I have never heard of three of these guys; Christopher Rabbe, Nicolas Arciniaga, and Michael Reneau? I can't imagine this would be the case with the 5K/10K or any other running track event for that matter if we looked at a top 10.

I guess it shows that while we still are far removed from the depth of the 1970s, there are a still a number of guys out there training for the marathon who remain relatively anonymous. Not big names in HS/NCAA, and unlikely to be world player, but hang in there nonetheless. BRAVO!!!!