Why do 15 minute 5k Guys think they're elite?

well said.

Not Elite wrote:

Here's the truth:

19 min. guys don't know this board exists.

17 min. guys envy the thought of conversing with 13 min. on this board?

15 min. guys think they're 13 min. guys.

13 min. guys look on this board for their name.

12 min. guys don't speak english. (except one from the outback)

You missed:

18 min. guys diss the Hansons for not having 13 min. guys.

Very funny and probably true.

Where is the low 14, sub 14 group?

I ran low 14's in college, and it always burned my ass not to go under 14. I felt that would have been a mark of semi-elite status. That being said, in XC, I beat a ton of 13:40-13:50 types on the track. I was always hurt for track. Man, those 10 seconds could have put me in a whole different group...ha,ha.

Who really cares what they think or how they live? Outside of the fact that through their performances they do indeed contribute to the sport, I really couldn't give crap one about their worldview.

im one of those 15 flat guys, and its not so much that Im cocky, it's more so that the slower guys seem to be pussies.

Then again I know some old bulls, guys in their 50's or so, that run harder than I do, even though they are in the 18-19 range, and have nothing but respect.

I am an ex-basketball player and feel that some of the other runners- ie people that couldnt succeed in anything else- take things a little more personal...

I think that some runners- regardless of time, just need to toss their tampons out and butch up.

lex luthor wrote:

im one of those 15 flat guys, and its not so much that Im cocky, it's more so that the slower guys seem to be pussies.

You need to realize that you're still one of "the slower guys" to a lot of people (I'm also one of those 15 flat guys).

All sections of the pack are competitive. If you have a bad day the slower guys you always beat will be on you like a pack of dogs. If the 250-pound lady coming second last in the 1/2 marathon shows weakness the 300-pound lady in last place will tear her a new asshole. Don't kid yourself the last two spots are like Geb and Tagat. This shit is serious.

fgfg wrote:

If the 250-pound lady coming second last in the 1/2 marathon shows weakness the 300-pound lady in last place will tear her a new asshole.

Great image

How fast?

Yeah, c'mmon dude. How fast are you? What are your PRs?

as a 15 minute guy, i never considered myself elite. i do take my running seriously though and maybe that's confused for being an elitish snob. the thing i've found with guys that have run much faster than me is they're just like every other runner out there. they're goofy and personable guys that are more willing to talk about your running than theirs. the women are similar in that respect. of course there are some weirdos who might take themselves a little too seriously, but that's much less common than you think. try talking to these guys you believe are full of themselves and maybe you'll find out your perception isn't the same as reality.

shipalum wrote:

try talking to these guys you believe are full of themselves and maybe you'll find out your perception isn't the same as reality.

That would take actual intelligence and nads, something in rare and diminishing supply among posters on this site.

I would clarify that I don't have anything against 15 flat 5k runners. Or anyone who is passionate about the sport, working hard to better themselves. I didn't want to come off as if I was knocking "slower" runners down. It's really the certain type of "15 min. 5ker" that has a kind of air of pomposity that radiates everywhere, thinking they are superior to or equal to real elite runners. This type of personality often criticizes and knocks down the 18 min. guys because they're insecure (deep down) that they're really not elite.

Anyway, I won't list my times. It's irrelevant to the subject. I have nothing to prove on a message board when it concerns my racing performances.

When you're right, you're right. Even Boulder has its share of legends-in-their-own-minds 15:XX 5Kers, and they like to get after it like their shit don't stink on a local website.

Not Elite wrote:

Those seem to be the most consumed in the sport, as well. Is it annoying to anyone else besides me?

Until ur ass can run 15:00 flat for the 5 k or faster than you may speak up.. until then. SHUT THE FUCK UP

dota wrote:

Until ur ass can run 15:00 flat for the 5 k or faster than you may speak up

"your" "then"

Until your ass can write in a coherent manner, then you may speak up.

i run right at 15 minutes, but i got little talent. basically, what i'm saying is that i'd beat all you 13- and 14-something bitches if i had your talent. i'm tough as nails, and i'd kick all your asses on a sloppy cross course. that's why i'm a cocky 15-minute guys. because i got no talent but i'm still kicking ass.

Nailhead Struck wrote:

Even Boulder ...

what does where you live have to do with anything? what are you implying?