HSer Cole Sprout runs 8:49.02 3200 at 5,000+ feet in CO

I disagree. Yes the third point is absolutely valid. Crazies think we aren't allowed to run. But the first 2 are actually things that this site is all about. We should debate altitude conversions and we should debate who is the best all-time. Do you think NFL fans don't sit around debating who is the best QB of all-time?

" running on an ancient track measured in yards."

Well that I would not know. If that is the case, my apologies. I went by common start/finish line. For either distance, for a kid who has battled as many injuries as he has, an excellent time.

That looked like a new Mondo Super X 720 surface.

First off those performances are not just ‘happening’ from 50 MPW. I’m sorry but you don’t run those kinds of times without more training that basically every serious hs runner is doing. It’s fine that he’s running fast, but to pretend that he just shows up and runs faster than almost every hs kid in the us with minimal training is dishonest. Second - the insta-part is these guys on social media get addicted to the likes and can’t keep it going. It will be Taylor Phinney or Webb all over again. He should throttle back and be a kid for a few more years and not establish impossible hype that he’s going to spend the rest of his life ‘failing’ to live up to....

Sprout logs in Strava. He does 60MPW and not many speed workouts,

Cole Sprout runs 60mpw and ran 8:49. But Austin Aldarez runs 10 mpw and ran 8:58. You be the judge.

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There were five of us there; 4 immediate family plus his girlfriend.. His sister filmed and you can see the other 3 of us at the finish line, and Coe was running. We don’t know who the other group was, other than the pacers. If you look hard enough you can find a problem anywhere, but there isn’t one here. It’s an open track and anyone can be on it. These kids don’t get to have the opportunity to compete this season. If you are actually a coach how can you not understand and support these moments? After our handful of years in this world, I find myself completely baffled by the nasty people out there who seem to be in the prowl looking for something they can attack or criticize.

I am a coach and I've been leaving the gate to our track open every day so my team and the local community can use it safely. It's been hugely popular, almost too popular, there have been kids from schools all around the area using our track because all the other high school tracks around here are locked up. Not everyone can drive to Niwot for a workout or time trial. Right now I have the support of our administrators and local authorities to continue to leave our track open but that could easily change. This video could directly blow back on me and my athletes. It could cost one of my athletes the chance to run in college. I'm one email or phone call away from my team not having a place to train.

This whole situation sucks, no one is denying that, an 8:49 3200 would have been an incredible state record in Colorado and Cole was clearly robbed of his senior season, just like thousands of other kids all over the US. And just to be clear, I'm not calling out Cole or the Sprout family here, as much as all the other kids on the infield that are clearly not social distancing and appear to be training together. My first concern when I saw this video was that Niwot or their club Real Training were hosting some kind of practice. It is not clear just by watching this video who is here together and who isn't and that's kind of the problem with the whole thing.

These 3 images are all in the US yesterday. Gees. I can't believe that we are worrying about a few dozen kids at a track. Everyone has lost their mind.

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birdbeard wrote:

Cruz, Nico, Leo, Nathan Green, Strangio all are better in HS than Hall in the mile, some as of today, some of that would have been had meets been ran.

In XC, add Schoppe, Methner, Brown as in the realm.

So, to get this straight, you're saying:

1) All 5-8 of these guys would have run a 3:42 1500m (or the equivalent, sub-3:59 1600m or 4:00.5 mile, times probably accomplished a dozen or fewer times in US HS running history)

2) These are the "low key" guys from the class - then who are the "studs"?

3) You think Ryan Hall's mile time (the guy who is the fastest US marathoner ever) is indicative of his distance running prowess

Okay..

Well I was going off the 4:02. Not the post-grad run. Culpepper has already hit 4:00.1i. Daschbach is better than Culpepper. The others guys were all in the 4:04-4:06 range last year and have improved. Standing by it.

Also I don’t think you understood my usage of low key. I wasn’t referring to them as low key runners.

In HS Ryan Hall was a mile specialist. Strangio and Young our up much better times on the same XC courses that Hall ran this year.

There are no guarantees. The 4 minute barrier is hard to break. DJ Principe ran 4 flat indoor a few years ago and was guaranteed to break it outdoor but did not. His PR is still 4 minutes. Brodey Hasty, same thing.

Hall ran 3:42.70/4:02.62 1600 state record in high school, as well as third behind Ritz and Webb at Footlocker, plus a ten miler at altitude in 49:xx (

https://www.milesplit.com/articles/144/up-close-ryan-hall-takes-some-time-to-talk-with-fastpreps

; in the interview below he refers to threshold ten milers at 5:20 at lower altitude and 8 miles at 5:26 at Big Bear). His senior year he was held back by side effects of Accutane treatment. In college, he ran no faster in the 1500m but finished 2nd as a junior in xc to Ritz and won NCAA's in the 5000m in 13:22 as a senior.

"HALL: I see myself as being very good at all of the distances, but I really like the mile the most. It’s what I’m the most passionate about, but I see myself as a good cross country runner as well. Hopefully, when I go to college I’ll do well in cross country which I think I’m pretty good at. I think I’ll do well at the longer distance (10k in college versus 5k in high school) because I’m doing 10 mile threshold runs now so 10k should seem shorter than that.

LETSRUN: What type of pace are we talking about for these threshold runs?

HALL: It depends on where and when I do them. I did one at 5:20 pace at lower altitude. Up here (in Big Bear), I did 8 miles at 5:26, but I’m getting stronger and stronger every week."

There is a video its on runner space instagram dummy

talented lazy wrote:

Sprout logs in Strava. He does 60MPW and not many speed workouts,

But does he time/log his morning runs? Does he run badger miles?

I'm not saying he's not just doing 60 mpw... it's certainly possible. I believe German Fernandez was a really low mileage guy. But is Sprout swimming or cycling on the side too?

Either way, he's an incredible talent. 8:49 at 5,300' in a time trial is no joke!

The local grocery store in Niwot is 10x more people in close quarters so why dont you call your fvckin congressman about that.

Otherwise S>T>F>U> KAREN

He is doing 60 by logging doubles. I am starting to think Young may have been fighting to finish top 3 in a 2 miler.

Let these kids just run. However they can find the space to showcase their fitness. Huge fan of Cole and happy to see he’s out there showing us the senior season he’s been working for. Such a bummer for this group - people will be talking about the class of 2020 for years.