If Kyle Merber can go out and train I'm this Korir can go out too. If anything he should modify his training but I totally understand that he needs the track. Probably a couple of times a week to work on his speed. I mean, there's a lot of runners getting it done out there so why can't he?
Yes, it is most likely a false statement. That newspaper is not known for accurate high-quality reporting.
A better question is why a university in Texas was paying for Kenyans to run at their school? Every penny given to them was one less that went to an American.
jenapharm wrote:
wants to be back in Kenya so much - fine go and don't let the USA door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Why do Americans throw their toys out of the pram every time someone says they’d rather be somewhere else?
This is probably the longest he's been unable to visit an Iten pharmacy for years.
Likely struggling to break 55 seconds in intervals, so a little embarrassed to be seen on the track.
Nice job trying to automatically blame white people, you obviously aren’t only racist but also stupid. El Paso is HEAVILY Hispanic. Very few white people. E for effort
Im living and am running in El Paso right now. All local and state parks are closed along with running/biking trails. There are however a lot of empty dirty paths along the drainage ditches used to irrigate farms and properties to run on. He should check out the drainage ditches in the upper valley and around Santa Teresa. They aren’t owned by the city (they belong to a water region or something). At 6:30 am I rarely see anyone at all. He’d have to be doing pretty monotonous loops of about 5 miles but it’s doable. There’s particularly desolate dirt paths next to a farm by the Santa Teresa YMCA. That said no tracks are open. A city of El Paso vehicle drove past me on one of the ditches earlier last week and said nothing.
El Keniano wrote:
jenapharm wrote:
wants to be back in Kenya so much - fine go and don't let the USA door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Why do Americans throw their toys out of the pram every time someone says they’d rather be somewhere else?
Insecurity is the reason why.
I spent most of my running career training on the roads. I am not an olympian, but it is dumb to think one needs anything but a road to keep training.
This isn't swimming, or tennis, or hockey.
Sorry to have inconvenienced you bro, I don't know if you've noticed but there are a ton of people unemployed right now. Struggling to make ends meet. Your grievance is at the bottom of the pile. Feel free to illegally immigrate to Mexico and find your way back to Kenya.
He should just swallow his pride and run on the roads. Also measure out some stretches for intervals. It’s really not that hard. Plenty of other elite 800m runners are training and making the best of the situation, so can he.
Why the hell are you asking? It's true for him.
I live in El Paso and I coach xc and track in hs. 1st we do live in TX but El Paso is 10 hours away from most of TX by car and even farther away politically. So they are freaking out more here than they should be. Tracks and parks are closed and you better not go there! But my athletes are training on the roads and he can as well!
Rojo’s intention for this thread is to play to the peanut gallery of this site and brand Korir a liar, because Kenyans just can’t be trusted or taken at their word. Consistent with a pitiable trend here.
El Keniano wrote:
Rojo’s intention for this thread is to play to the peanut gallery of this site and brand Korir a liar, because Kenyans just can’t be trusted or taken at their word. Consistent with a pitiable trend here.
Bingo
Sounds like he's just too intellectually lazy to figure a place to get a run without a track.
Mark g. Dorion wrote:
I too am trying to train in El Paso right now. All city and county parks were closed April 1. Tracks (including UTEP) and ballfields closed prior to that. We have huge (1000- 2000 acre) open space preserves with runnable trails, but those are also closed. Some of the dirt canal paths are still open (9 miles west of UTEP), but the nice levee bike paths etc. Are closed.
With UTEP closed, a student-athletes would not have access to the state-of-the art gyms with their Woodway treadmills that can get down to sub- 4:00 mile pace.
The roads are open, but there has been some backlash against runners here as elsewhere. I was yelled at for running without a mask.
And for those who jump to conclusions, El Paso is +/- 20 (twenty) % caucasian, and anyhow runners of all colors/ages/ etc. Are very accepted in "normal times." This is a friendly, international city.
Good luck and courage to all runners!
OkaOkchakko69 wrote:
I am training freely where I am in Texas. Yes, tracks are closed, but that doesn't stop you. I was running repeat sprints yesterday and one of the good 1/2 marathoners passed going opposite directions. I've known him since he was a kid.
gottarun215 wrote:
[quote]Mark g. Dorion wrote:
I too am trying to train in El Paso right now. All city and county parks were closed April 1. Tracks (including UTEP) and ballfields closed prior to that. We have huge (1000- 2000 acre) open space preserves with runnable trails, but those are also closed. Some of the dirt canal paths are still open (9 miles west of UTEP), but the nice levee bike paths etc. Are closed.
With UTEP closed, a student-athletes would not have access to the state-of-the art gyms with their Woodway treadmills that can get down to sub- 4:00 mile pace.
The roads are open, but there has been some backlash against runners here as elsewhere. I was yelled at for running without a mask.
And for those who jump to conclusions, El Paso is +/- 20 (twenty) % caucasian, and anyhow runners of all colors/ages/ etc. Are very accepted in "normal times." This is a friendly, international city.
Good luck and courage to all runners!
Different conditions and closings in different places. Guy in Colorado or wherever posts all the beautiful forests he runs in and says ya, no races, but its great to train here, getting higher mileage than ever before, everyone should be getting killer mileage with work from home...
Totally insensitive to places that aren't different and it seems these guys are unwilling to consider that the closings may not be the same in other areas. As has been stated, some drainage ditches are open in El Paso. Drainage ditches - does that sound like an interesting place to train? Run for months with the majority of one's mileage in freaking drainage ditches?
The runner who the thread is about is an 800 guy. A middle distance guy isn't doing long distance mega mileage (unless maybe he follows a lydiard scheme) and needs access to a track year round to train optimally. Even people base training for xc would do best to get on a track at least every week to two for a set of easy reps.
This seems to mostly back up his statement since it appears most good places to train are closed, but given he doesn't have races anytime soon, I would guess he would be more in a base or maintenance training phase where that would be less of an issue. Even though roads aren't ideal to run lots on, he could still get good training in. Saying he can't train at all appears to be a lie. Even if he has to lower his mileage or measure out distance on the road or grass somewhere to do workouts, he can still train even if it's less than ideal. Many people are in the same situation right now and any major championships won't be until 2021 anyways.
People can train if there is nothing but a mall parking lot to run around. Would you want to do all your running in a mall parking lot for a month? How about if you were a high level athlete? Ya, he can go run in whatever sprawl is around him in El Paso, which is barely a step up. I don't know what you know about El Paso, but a dense city that gets 10 inches of rain a year isn't going to have grass fields apart from public parks and school and university fields - which are closed.