I was open to the Trump presidency and open to voting for his re-election. However, these last few months have made it clear that he is not fit to be president. He downplayed this virus, rambles as he speaks, and has made it all about his re-election. Thank goodness that in November he will be voted out and we as a nation can heal from the political corruption, racism, and sexism he has represented.
Give this girl a raise
Fellow Christians
This is what we get for electing a philanderer, liar and criminal to the White House amirite? Yours in Christ.
semsurrrrrr wrote:
Smorbun wrote:
You really are an idiot.
Trump also said Mexico would pay for the wall, that he'd be the best President the LGBTQ community ever saw, that Hillary would be investigated if he were elected with the goal of locking her up, that repealing and replacing Obamacare would be "so easy" and 15,000 other false or misleading statements since he has been in office. You have something seriously wrong with you beyond just being an idiot. How can you possibly trust anything Trump says after he has lied to you so often? No need to answer. The answer is that you are a dumb@ss.
You seem highly emotional, I'll give you a pass since these are trying times. If I were you though, using that kind of language, I would be banned from posting. I already got banned for 48 hours for far 'kinder' language and am now apparently perma-banned from posting on Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread.
That said, I trust him for a number of reasons. Many of these "lies" themselves have been shown to be misleading or outright false, 'lies about lies,' shall we say. I also have enjoyed a lot of benefits under this presidency that I didn't under the previous administration.
Snopes and Politifact and Washington Post aren't the holy gospel, and neither is Trump.
Just remember that, be more discerning, and try to act more rationally (and not like a child)
Calling you a dumba$$ is factual, not emotional. He lies and says false things all the time even with experts in the room. You are a proven dumbasss to trust the word of such a liar. And, oh, he likes the use of the malaria medication more than Dr. Fauci does? How did Trump even say that? Faucu is a brilliant man and an expert in immunology and infectious diseases as well as the process to certify drugs for certain applications. To contradict him is asinine. You are an idiot.
Jamesengle6 wrote:
Good point. He is trying to cover over his initial poo pooing the virus and
calling it a Dem-inspired hoax. So he he calls it Chinese and claims he was the first to take steps to block it with his immigration policy at our border. Now he's going to claim he's been on it all along and it's another "win" for him.
But it's really his denial and stalling that had left us with too few tests or materials to mitigate it for a long time. People have died due to his/our tardy response.
I expect in November he is going to claim that SS and medicare's new found solvency was a result of his actions....
Racism is FAR worse than any virus or stupid bug could ever be!!! Get your head out of your areas people!
krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:
1. It's more accurate (location of origin)
2. We don't use scientific terms for a lot of things (example: do I have a "Canis familiaris" or a "dog"...)
3. People using just "coronavirus" are in some ways being less accurate
4. Arguably, we're not "relabeling" this virus; everyone (including the left wing media (CNN, etc)) had been calling it the Wuhan/Chinese virus from the beginning. It is actually "Covid-19" which is the relabel.
Eric - but just go ahead and keep assuming my motivations and my intents - it got you Trump the first time...
1. It's more accurate? Than what? Every other thing we could call it? The only adjectives that exist are locations?
2. Yeah. But sometimes we do. This is a case where we should.
3. Less accurate? How? It's 100% accurate. This is a coronavirus. I'm assuming the word you were searching for was "specific". Even in that case, no. The virus isn't only in China and there are numerous viruses in China. There are more viruses in China than there are viruses in the coronavirus family, so it's not even more specific.
4. Covid-19 isn't the name of the virus. It's the name of the disease. No one relabeled the virus that.
And before you spout some garbage about me as left wing/ liberal/ snowflake/ SJW, I'll let you know I supported McCain in 2004 and Romney in 2008. I would say I lean more conservative than liberal, but I treat politics like it's a function of society instead of like a high school football game where you pick a side and stick by it.
It's sad that your passion for fighting for your right to call it the Chinese Virus surpasses your ability to care. Is that really important? Just don't do it. Yeah, the world can seem too PC at times, but is fighting that really the most important thing. People of Asian ancestry have literally been assaulted because of this. Maybe the term won't make a difference, but can't we at least try? It won't hurt to call it something else. Your insistance on being right seems to be more important than being a good person, and that's pretty depressing. I know you're just some young guy who is upset feeling that the world doesn't follow logic the way you think it should. I've been there. But I've decided that being nice is more important than being "right". I hope one day you do too.
krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:
erik wrote:
It tells you something when people use non-scientific, non-standard terms to try to relabel the disease. What's the motivation? (We all know, you don't need to answer.)
1. It's more accurate (location of origin)
2. We don't use scientific terms for a lot of things (example: do I have a "Canis familiaris" or a "dog"...)
3. People using just "coronavirus" are in some ways being less accurate
4. Arguably, we're not "relabeling" this virus; everyone (including the left wing media (CNN, etc)) had been calling it the Wuhan/Chinese virus from the beginning. It is actually "Covid-19" which is the relabel.
Eric - but just go ahead and keep assuming my motivations and my intents - it got you Trump the first time...
Naming viruses after geographic location is not the custom. It was the 'Spanish Flu' because they were the ones to identify it, but at that time there was no understanding of the DNA/RNA, no electron microscope identification of it having crown shape.
Grow up. Covid-19 is not a re-label...it is the label . It provides clarity and distinction.
This is not analogous to 'chinese', 'greek' or 'mexican' food, those terms are accurate identifications of the preferences and taste of certain demographics. A choice.
No racial group has a preference or choice for Covid-19. Neither is there a preference from the virus for certain races. It is wrong even to speculate on ACE II receptors in racial groups, because Italy and Spain are outnumbering by far per capita the rate of infection and in absolute terms the deaths than china.
So where is the preference and what should we call it based on that.
I cannot believe the stupidity of racist logic. No, I can actually. It is the reason it can be debunked so easily.
Your president's refusal to accept the threat to the health of his citizens he is supposed to protect, his nationalistic failed approach to 'making our own tests' amongst others is what now makes this equally an 'American virus' as much as it is a 'Chinese virus'.
And now he wants to take the credit for action, with his hand in the pocket of his corporate buddies who will come to his rescue.
Trump..."I thank Roche and Therm Fisher, wonderful companies, great companies".
Well , well...Roche is Swiss and Thermo is american but acquired Qiagen Diagnsotics, a German company on 3rd March 2020 and now it will roll out millions of tests..so much for nationalism hey.
Seems just like you ended the WWII with German exiles building you a nuclear bomb.
But I digress.
On the Thermo Fisher thanking, think of this. Trump is heavily invested in Thermo. They bought Qiagen on 3rd March (this was post the failure of the US test kits), the CEO met with Pence etc around 5th/6th. They were thanked by Trump on 12th March. They went ex dividend on 13th March.
Rather than tackling the crisis for the benefit of his people, it seems he is looking at ways how that can line his pocket.
You put him there. You gave him the power when you knew what his character and history and competence was.
krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:
Rachel1 wrote:
That not how that works.
The Left no longer determines or tells us how things work or what the definitions of words are.
Keep trying to and the resultant will be overwhelming support for Trump in the Fall and another electoral win like in 2016.
LOL, you’re following dunces blindly.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/larry-kudlow-stock-buying-dow-jones-down-coronavirus-194506467.htmlSmorbun2 wrote:
Calling you a dumba$$ is factual, not emotional. He lies and says false things all the time even with experts in the room. You are a proven dumbasss to trust the word of such a liar. And, oh, he likes the use of the malaria medication more than Dr. Fauci does? How did Trump even say that? Faucu is a brilliant man and an expert in immunology and infectious diseases as well as the process to certify drugs for certain applications. To contradict him is asinine. You are an idiot.
You are very triggered right now.
Watch the video below starting at ~46:30 where Fauci says that there "isn't that much of a difference" between what he and the President are saying regarding hydroxychloroquine.
I'm assuming you didn't watch the video, saw some headlines and chyrons confirming your obvious dislike for the President and this administration and went from there.
Typical
Network Engie wrote:
We're more creative than this. Chinese Wheez, Wuhan Flu, CCPV, etc Lets hear em!
Thanks for the challenge.
I'll post a list compiled by some brilliant minds ;)
>Wu Flu
>WHO Flu
>Wumonia
>Kung Flu
>Gook Flu
>WuHu Flu
>China Syndrome
>Chinkpox
>Chinobyl
>Boomer Remover
>Justa Flu
>Coofit-19
>Holocough
>Boomerpox
>Poohmonia
>Coronachan
>Red Plague
>Chinkenpox
>Canton Coof
>Wu-Tang Flu
>Flu Man Chu
>Xi Jinplague
>Nothingburger
>Flu-Tang Clan
>Airborne AIDS
>Bat-Man Virus
>Winnie the Flu
>Shanghai Shivers
>Bat Soup Croup
>Pangolin's Revenge
>Wu-Ping Cough
>Wubonic Plague
>ChinAIDS/ChAIDS
>Chink Flying AIDS
>Pangolin Pandemic
>Wuhan Coronavirus
>Mandate of Heaving
>The Shaolin Sneeze
>Wet Market Surprise
>Sweet and Sour Sicken
>Communist Lung Herpes
>China's One Corpse Policy
>SARS-CoV-2: Alveolar Boogaloo
>Bill Gates Event 201
>Experimental Bioweapon CW-19
Although there is nothing inherently wrong with calling it the Chinese virus, However Trumps purpose and his continuing to push it down our throats to deflect blame is typical of the total disaster he has been. He was way too late to take this serious, from his hoax comment, to his it will disappear, to his own behavior showing that reckless behavior, he let this virus take hold. From ridding the country of its pandemic response team to disagreeing with his own experts, he is in over his head.
semsurrrrrr wrote:
Let us not forget that the virus disproportionately affects the ACE II receptors, of which there are significantly more in Chinese and Asian people.
Also, it's possible we're dealing with an actual bioweapon leaked, intentionally or not, from the Wuhan Level-4 Lab.
However, the Chinese recently accused the U.S. of unleashing it through the military during the Military World Games in Wuhan in October...
Trump's "Chinese Virus" is a response to that. He also speaks of fighting "the invisible enemy" and that we will "defeat" them to claim "victory" in the "war."
There are many military ops and mass arrests underway right now as I type this. The "Chinese Virus" is, to some extent, allowing the opportunity for such events due to societal shutdown.
You may also notice that Google and Twitter algorithms have shifted. Results for searches normally suppressed and/or censored are suddenly popping up after ~3.5 years of being virtually irretrievable.
Interesting to note, Trump has repeatedly referenced WW2 and the young people who fought so valiantly and how the nation banded together.
To assume his comment is solely due to 'racism' or 'deflection,' I think, is asinine. There's a lot more going on than meets the eye.
INDU wrote:
Trump has every right to be pissed off with the government of China for hiding the full scope of the virus from the world. There is a difference between blaming the Chinese government and blaming Chinese Americans who have never even set foot in China.
Smart people in the US knew. Certainly the CDC knew. I'm sure members of the Pandemic Response Team that was disbanded in 2018 knew. US Intelligence was telling Congress and Trump this since January, and telling them louder and louder since then until it blew up. They just chose not to listen.
http://archive.vn/IQNz1Truth b told2 wrote:
Although there is nothing inherently wrong with calling it the Chinese virus, However Trumps purpose and his continuing to push it down our throats to deflect blame is typical of the total disaster he has been.
He was way too late to take this serious, from his hoax comment, to his it will disappear, to his own behavior showing that reckless behavior, he let this virus take hold.
From ridding the country of its pandemic response team to disagreeing with his own experts, he is in over his head.
...
I was amazed at the video of the conference in which he asked Fauci about using another flu vaccine.
I mean, the question seems reasonable from an ignorant person, but this is the president of the US. Has nobody explained the very basics to him, or has he simply been unable to listen?
I am Sam wrote:
Naming viruses after geographic location is not the custom.
Wrong, Sam.
Boy you're wrong, Sam.
Let's revisit history, shall we?
We've had:
Spanish Flu (actually started in China)
Hong Kong Flu
Lyme disease (Lyme, connecticut)
West Nile virus (Nile River)
Ebola (named after the Ebola River in the Congo)
Monkeypox (a virus from Africa)
Marburg Virus (Marburg, Germany)
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome
Korean Hemorrhagic Fever
Thailand Virus
California encephalitis orthobunyavirus
Dobrava-Belgrade orthohantavirus
Bwamba orthobunyavirus
Jamestown Canyon Virus
Colorado Tick Fever
Pacific Coast Tick Fever
Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever
Bourbon Virus
Bhanja Virus
Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus
Japanese Encephalitis
Norovirus (Norwalk, Ohio)
German Measles
Lassa fever (Lassa, Nigeria)
Zika virus(named after Zika forest in Uganda)
St. Louis Encephalitis
Heartland Virus (American Heartland states)
Bornholm Disease
(San Joachim) Valley Fever
Junin Virus
Ross River Fever
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
La Crosse Encephalitis
Sudan virus
Taï Forest virus (Taï Forest of the Irovy Coast)
Lochgoilheadfever (Lochgoilhead, Scotland)
Pontiac fever (Pontiac, Michigan)
Legionnaires disease (1976American Legionconvention inPhiladelphia)
Thanks for playing.
Check Mate
Adding, we in the US knew they were in a mad rush to build a temporary quarantine center/field hospital in January, and the reason was not a secret.
On a different forum we were discussing this photo on January 24th. The implications are obvious. There was no reason to believe it was contained in China. So of course people should have known it was going to be here.
zzzz wrote:
INDU wrote:
Trump has every right to be pissed off with the government of China for hiding the full scope of the virus from the world. There is a difference between blaming the Chinese government and blaming Chinese Americans who have never even set foot in China.
Smart people in the US knew. Certainly the CDC knew. I'm sure members of the Pandemic Response Team that was disbanded in 2018 knew. US Intelligence was telling Congress and Trump this since January, and telling them louder and louder since then until it blew up. They just chose not to listen.
http://archive.vn/IQNz1
That is the bottom line, the name you call it is an irrelevant distraction. In short he bungled this very badly. No foresight whatsoever.
Ciro wrote:
In short he bungled this very badly.
You're drawing premature conclusions. How many dead and infected compared to other countries?
Most of the world is doing worse than the U.S. right now. Let's wait to see where 'the curve' goes before we say it was bungled...
There are a few lies about Trump that keep getting repeated on here so lets clear things up:
1. Trump did not call Covid-19 a hoax, he called the democrats politicizing it a hoax.
2. Trump did not fire the pandemic response team.
3. Trump did not cut funding to the CDC - he has actually signed a bill to increase it every year since 2017.
