OK, she's got to be the greatest runner male or female of all time....
Follows her amazing LA record marathon performance with a first in the masters at Gate River and then runs 25:56 the following week! Three weeks at the top of the Road Racing World as a 48 year old!!!
Check her 800, 1500, and 3000m times from the 70's and you're talking about an All Time Great! How about a poster next month T&F News?
She will be on the cover of "Procrit Today" next month.
Ray, yes, a VERY strong case could be made to feature Tatyana on the cover of one of the national/int'l running pubs. As per best ever...need to think on that one.
Gebrselassie. 16 world records ranging from 3000 meters to 10,000. Good chance for one at the marathon too. A bunch of world championships and Olympic medals. Not even close
Think Geb will be running faster 20 years from now?
Ray wrote:
Think Geb will be running faster 20 years from now?
In the 800 or 3000? No, but then again, Pozdynakova isn't running faster at those distances now either. In the marathon? Probably not, but then again, she wasn't running marathons back then, was she?
Either way, he's climbed a much higher mountain than she ever did and beaten higher quality opponents at multiple distances. How many world records has she set?
Not going to argue with you there. In fact the entire thread was tongue-in-cheek which aparently 16x understood quite well. Explain to me someone please, how if our ability to recover decreases dramatically as we age, can this woman pull off this trifecta as well as competing in the handful of marathons that she runs each year...
Her testicles descended a little later than your average Soviet woman.
Women don't have testicles.
Ray wrote:
Not going to argue with you there. In fact the entire thread was tongue-in-cheek which aparently 16x understood quite well. Explain to me someone please, how if our ability to recover decreases dramatically as we age, can this woman pull off this trifecta as well as competing in the handful of marathons that she runs each year...
Ah, I get it now. Didn't get the tone of the first post, didn't know you and with all the ridiculous stuff one finds here, you never know who's being serious.
Does she run in drug-tested races? Is she subject to out-of-competition testing. Probably not, I'm guessing.
Ray wrote:
OK, she's got to be the greatest runner male or female of all time....
Follows her amazing LA record marathon performance with a first in the masters at Gate River and then runs 25:56 the following week! Three weeks at the top of the Road Racing World as a 48 year old!!!
Check her 800, 1500, and 3000m times from the 70's and you're talking about an All Time Great! How about a poster next month T&F News?
I agree she is an all time great runner.
It appears that male chauvinism and the arrogance of youth are still flourishing. Why is there such a widespread belief that women over the age of 40 are incapable of sustaining elite level performances? Over 20 years continuously at the elite level of our sport shows extraordinary work ethic and talent. Cheap shots about drug usage without any proof just reflect their authors' unwillingness to consider the possibility that this woman is both more talented and more dedicated to her running than those critics are capable of comprehending.
EXACTLY.
How many american 48-year old women are out there doing 120 miles a week, including 2 weekly long runs? How many 48-year old GUYS do that?
Hell, how many posters on this board train harder than Poz and have run faster than 3:56 1500m AND 2:29 marathon?
Maybe you just don't like being beaten by a 48-year old woman?
My advice to drug accusers - grow some testicles of your own, go out there and train your ass off. Then when some couch potato will say your accomplishments must be simply due to drugs you'll know exactly how it feels.
We make fun of the RW penguins, but in many ways you are worse than penguins. Give the credit where credit is due.
For those of you who are so obviously uninformed, her prize $$$ and placing were taken away from her several years ago when she tested positive for something at the Houston Marathon.
Ooop, you can get that foot out of your mouth now....
Other than the Procrit reference by 16x at the top, I don't see any accusation of drug use nor male chauvinism. I would loved to know her secret. How does one stay at the very top of the elite scene for 28-30 years? How does one acclimate to running that much mileage, 3-4 marathons a year, a huge number of high level races, some only days after a marathon, all at the age of 48? How is it that this woman has us throw out the books on recovery, the aging process, etc? I won't say it's drugs, although she has been caught cheating before. But someone needs to do a study on this miracle of physiology and let the rest of us know what's going on.
Don't give me that bullshit that it's hard work. Science tells us that age is a factor. In Regina's case the age is 39 and no adverse reactions, here it's 48. Troncoso, Wysocki, Somers Smith, Joyce, Welch, Smith, Binder,Moller, McLatchie and others have tried to sustain their levels beyond their early 40's and have not been able to do so. AS a coach of a number of successful master's athletes, I'd like to know how to crack the code.
I would suspect a large part of the answer lies in good genes, which, unfortunately, can neither be developed nor learned. 16x, what was she busted for? There is a world of difference between banned cold remedies and banned performance enhancers, just ask the marathoner who got busted and lost her prize money in Japan last year when she tested for too much caffeine after she was urged to rehydrate with Coke at the Coke-sponsored race.
I just answered my own question with a google search. In 1996 at Houston she tested positive for pseudoepherdrine and ephedrine, which are found in virtually every decongestant cold medicine. While those are on the banned list, they're certainly very different from nandro or procrit.
Great - there you have it. The secret to longevity is in the cold medicine.
ha!
Well, I don't race nearly as often as Poz, but if they tested me the way they test top women at major races, I'd probably test positive for something like a cold medicine several of times.
High mileage suppresses immune system, and if you get a decent 24-week base-building period leading up to a marathon without catching a single cold, consider yourself lucky.
She is unbelieveable. The secret code, hmmm....besides the obvious of talent, injury-free, good diet, I would say is Determination!