CDC: Coronavirus is coming to USA. "It’s not a question of if this will happen but when." What steps should we take?

So far, the stats show the death rate to be pretty small with this thing.

Best tip: face masks won't help. Best tip I've read is don't touch your mouth our nose in public, and when home or in office wash hands well and often. Hand sanitizer isn't good enough.

informational wrote:

Best tip: face masks won't help. Best tip I've read is don't touch your mouth our nose in public, and when home or in office wash hands well and often. Hand sanitizer isn't good enough.

One of the best things about face masks is the fact that they prevent you from touching your nose and mouth... so... they do help a lot of people.

informational wrote:

Best tip: face masks won't help. Best tip I've read is don't touch your mouth [or] nose in public, and when home or in office wash hands well and often. Hand sanitizer isn't good enough.

This. Also, avoid shaking hands.

Oh, and get a flu shot if you haven't already. We're told that most who succumb to the coronavirus have other health issues. A flu shot will reduce the likelihood of your getting *that* particular health issue.

It's similar to the flu wrote:

The death rate is still holding steady at around 2%-3% of the cases.

Even that is BS. Outside Hubei province, there have been only 100 deaths out of about 16,000 confirmed cases. That's 0.6% and it's held steady well under 1% since cases were first confirmed elsewhere. That includes in China, so it's not just a matter of other countries having better health care. And its spread to so many other countries proves the Chinese aren't just downplaying the whole thing.

More importantly, China is reporting fewer and fewer new cases every day. We're not seeing anything like exponential growth. Hubei province had 60,000 cases about a week ago, now it has 64,000, so the virus has still sickened only about 1 of every 1000 of its 60 million people, and may top out at about 120,000 cases or 1 in 500. That's the model for uncontrolled spread, so in other countries it looks to be even more sporadic than that in the long run.

Best thing anyone can do is ignore the corporate media on this - they are hyping this disease porn to cash in. Just look at the numbers from a legit, impartial medical source.

The biggest concern for the US is if people who are uninsured and under insured come down with the virus and do not seek treatment. They could become an army of superspreaders, making it impossible to contain the virus and leading to massive quarantines like those that are in place in China. The US government needs to announce that there is universal free health care for anyone with coronavirus symptoms. That could make a huge difference.

The other thing that needs to happen is a massive effort to secure a vaccine and mass produce it as fast as possible. Emergency suspension of FDA rules and patent protections may be warranted. Getting a vaccine out before the virus mutates and reemerges in late 2020 could be a game changer.

Everyone needs to be ready to be quarantined for 14 days at home at a minimum. Hand washing needs to be obsessive. If we can get to summer when transmission is more difficult and kids are out of school without a big outbreak, we may be ok if a vaccine is made widely available by fall 2020.

The US government should spare no expense. Take the border wall money and put it towards creating quarantine and treatment infrastructure. Military bases are best set up to handle that works.

Anyone telling you to either

a) Ignore the media, or

b) Listen to the media

Is a complete idiot.

Understand fragility of complex systems and you'll start to understand how risk dynamics work.

fartlekpa wrote:

Anyone telling you to either

a) Ignore the media, or

b) Listen to the media

Is a complete idiot.

Understand fragility of complex systems and you'll start to understand how risk dynamics work.

Sound logic

fartlekpa wrote:

Anyone telling you to either

a) Ignore the media, or

b) Listen to the media

Is a complete idiot.

Understand fragility of complex systems and you'll start to understand how risk dynamics work.

fact-free douchebaggery from a fear-porn junkie

turn it off, people. Stop wanting to be scared.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

Survive? the best thing to survive is not be 80+ with a heart condition.

And if supermarkets have empty shelves and you are quarantined at home, not to be a 115lb distance runner.

Bad Wigins wrote:

[quote]fartlekpa wrote:

Anyone telling you to either

a) Ignore the

fact-free douchebaggery from a fear-porn junkie

turn it off, people. Stop wanting to be scared.

Being this assmad that your 401k is dropping like a rock

rojo wrote:

“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/25/f4045570-5758-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

So that's depressing. The question I have is what steps are the best ones to take to try to survive? Is our best bet to stay at home and order everything on amazon prime or some food delivery service?

Or are you safe out and about as long as you have a mark on and wash your hands?

Stock up on ready to eat canned or dry goods. Buy lots of alcohol and something to spray it with, to disinfect your masks for re-use. Figure out how to care for your kids when schools close. Don't plan on grandparents, unless you want them to die. Plan on avoiding contact with possibly contaminated surfaces - gloves and alcohol spray. Watch your kids like a hawk, since they don't know how to avoid contamination.

Or, take an extended vacation out in a hot location.

"wanting to be scared". "Fear porn junky". Right, chief.

Idiots don't understand that real risk is not in what is known but what is unknown. Risk is in the future.

This Nate Silver clone is a great example of conflating fear with basic risk management. He'll be right a hundred times and will pat himself on the back each time....til one day when he's DEAD wrong.

Anyone who thinks that’s the death rate is a fool . The Chinese govt tried for months to surpress the existence of this disease . Do you really think they are telling the truth about it now? Of course not . They don’t care if 4,000,000 Chinese die as long as they keep making billions off of sales overseas . The death rate is more like 10%. If it mutates again it could be 80%

And if it mutates again after that, the death rate could be 320%. It could kill you and then come back and kill you all over again, just to be sure.

And here come the idiots blaming Trump. Never thought that would happen. Coronavirus is at its peak. Just turn off CNN for a week(or forever) . You'll be fine.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

Voting out the current president would be a good start. His drastic cuts to important public health agencies have crippled our ability to respond to this outbreak. It appears that his strategy is to simply ignore this crisis and hope it goes away because he is worried that it could hurt his re-election prospects if people start freaking out.

The difference between Ebola, and Covid-19, is that Covid-19 is unstoppable with the long incubation period of up to 27 days without symptoms while still being contagious, true transfer by air, true transfer through eyes and skin, lasting on surfaces for almost a month, so small passes even through N95 masks, etc. Hospitals will mostly be worse than useless, other than providing oxygen to a lucky few, because they'll just become place to pass along to the infection. To admit how bad the situation is to collapse the economy and society faster, so every government in the world will do the same, lie and deny until the end.

What to do:

1. Christianity is the only true religion, Eastern Orthodoxy is true Christianity. Seek Christ as best you can.

2. Stock up on supplies.

Good point here. This disease is very infectious, but in reality, there is not too much to be concerned about. This isn't another SARS or Ebola. Even if you somehow catch this, you most likely won't die.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Even that is BS. Outside Hubei province, there have been only 100 deaths out of about 16,000 confirmed cases.

Maybe because they were infected more recently outside of Hubei so they haven't had as much time to die?

Every scientist is telling you that it's signficantly more dangerous than the ordinary flu. It's also possible to contain if we act quickly because very few people are infected. Why are you trying to downplay this?