Parents and girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

Many got what they deserved. Support for the whole transgender joke- EXCEPT when it effects you.

REAP WHAT YOU SOW. Glad this has happened.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

The suit was filed last June so I don't know why there is a new article about.

A Title IX complaint was filed last year...a lawsuit was filed THIS YEAR. We hvae so many unintelligent folks on this board.

I'm not sure if I'm one of the unitelligent folks, but it's still the same story and there's no new information.

My guess it that any court will say the rules are up to the state.

facts and reason wrote:

Leftists believe that there are multiple genders;

Whereas you think there is a single gender?

You can’t even form coherent arguments, as evidenced by your quote. That’s why all you are able to do is post links.

My biology teacher taught me that there were two. Leftists are science deniers. They also don't believe that a fetus can only develop into a baby and nothing else.

Men are women wrote:

My biology teacher taught me that there were two. Leftists are science deniers. They also don't believe that a fetus can only develop into a baby and nothing else.

Luckily, in the current state of sports, there are two gender categories. So if someone is female, they run with females. These parents seem to be suing against a girl for running with girls which is an unwinnable case.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Luckily, in the current state of sports, there are two gender categories. So if someone is female, they run with females. These parents seem to be suing against a girl for running with girls which is an unwinnable case.

But here's the thing, when I register for a race it doesn't ask my gender, it asks my sex. And while these individuals may identify as the female gender, their sex (ie., sex chromosomes and associated biology) remains male.

David S wrote:

third party runner person wrote:

Thoughts? Seems like a valid complaint for the courts to decide upon as 17 titles won by transgender athletes in a couple years does give credence to the argument that there is a competitive advantage.

Can you give a reference for the 17 titles? And 17 out of how many? The article says 17 states allow them to compete. If you're going to allow them to compete they're going to win sometimes.

Anyhow the real question isn't whether there is a competitive advantage, it's whether they should be allowed to compete as their chosen gender at the high school level. It's a moral one not a performance-based one.

The 2 athletes have won 15 titles. I believe the only time one of them lost at the state level is when competing with the other one.

sex not gender wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Luckily, in the current state of sports, there are two gender categories. So if someone is female, they run with females. These parents seem to be suing against a girl for running with girls which is an unwinnable case.

But here's the thing, when I register for a race it doesn't ask my gender, it asks my sex. And while these individuals may identify as the female gender, their sex (ie., sex chromosomes and associated biology) remains male.

Up until the mid 90s sex and gender were used interchangeably. Even today there isn't much though given to them a lot of times. So basically we have a bunch of old documents/laws where it isn't remotely clear what the intent is. Is "Woman s track and field" woman the gender or woman the gender?

Personally I have no problem with woman who have transitioned competing. If after taking estrogen for 6 months (now if taking testerone makes you a doper is a tougher question. I don't know what the TUE rules for that are for men), you are running the times fine. But that isn't what is happening right now.

On the other hand the lawsuits are delusional. Nobody is losing out on scholarships because of this. You don't get those for winning state meets. You do them by running fast. If there was a cis female prodigy in the state running fast times, it wouldn't result in them not getting scholarships.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Men are women wrote:

My biology teacher taught me that there were two. Leftists are science deniers. They also don't believe that a fetus can only develop into a baby and nothing else.

Luckily, in the current state of sports, there are two gender categories. So if someone is female, they run with females. These parents seem to be suing against a girl for running with girls which is an unwinnable case.

They are boys running against girls. Would be similar to high schoolers running up against elementary school students. But they’ll be able to qualify for Boston easier!

so what mf wrote:

Trans are sick, delusional, selfish pieces of shitt.

usually have been abused beyond what your little brain could even imagine. maybe look at it from a more compassionate angle.

"Mentally and physically, we know the outcome before the race even starts, that biological unfairness doesn't go away because of what someone believes about gender identity. All girls deserve the chance to compete on a level playing field.”

Man, she said everything, imagine you're a girl training your guts out everyday, knowing that all you can get is a 2nd or 3rd place, not because your competitors are more talented or work harder than you, but just because they were born a man and have higher levels of testosterone, more muscle mass (which means more muscle fibers to recruit), lower body fat % and higher initial and top-end Vo2max (not that it matters much for sprinters, but you get the point).

It's pretty much like being a master's athlete competing in your own age category and knowing that you'll never win because someone biologically younger than you, feels he's old (identify himself as being older) despite what's written in his birth certificate.

sex not gender wrote:

But here's the thing, when I register for a race it doesn't ask my gender, it asks my sex. And while these individuals may identify as the female gender, their sex (ie., sex chromosomes and associated biology) remains male.

I identify as a billionaire playbody, but the Democrats aren't progressive enough to fight for the government to give me a billion dollars: which is strange, since, unlike changing from sex to another, transitioning me into a billionaire is actually possible.

hiddentreasure wrote:

so what mf wrote:

Trans are sick, delusional, selfish pieces of shitt.

usually have been abused beyond what your little brain could even imagine. maybe look at it from a more compassionate angle.

Was Bruce Jenner abused beyond imagination?

And Magic Johnson's kid or Dwayne Wayde's kid. No. These are the richest most spoiled members of our society. Somebody needs to give them a real job and some purpose in life. This is our generation's drug.

People are not women because they “feel like women” and are not slower during to these “feminine feelings.” Female bodies are different from male bodies and have different abilities and that is supposed to be why there is a separate category for athletic competition. What on earth else would be the point?

The line will get so blurred that there can only be one category, the human one. If high schoolers change their gender and then transfer schools, who would know?

The lunatic fringe is taking over. It’s the end of the world as we know it.

“That biological unfairness doesn't go away because of what someone believes about gender identity. All girls deserve the chance to compete on a level playing field.” This is a very good argument. Transgender participation is simply unfair.

third party runner person wrote:

Thoughts? Seems like a valid complaint for the courts to decide upon as 17 titles won by transgender athletes in a couple years does give credence to the argument that there is a competitive advantage.

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/girls-sue-block-participation-transgender-athletes-68941543

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

David S wrote:

Can you give a reference for the 17 titles? And 17 out of how many? The article says 17 states allow them to compete. If you're going to allow them to compete they're going to win sometimes.

Anyhow the real question isn't whether there is a competitive advantage, it's whether they should be allowed to compete as their chosen gender at the high school level. It's a moral one not a performance-based one.

The 2 athletes have won 15 titles. I believe the only time one of them lost at the state level is when competing with the other one.

Well you clearly just made this up and didn't even bother to check. In 2018 Outdoor CT State Open meet, Miller got 4th in the 400, and Yearwood got 7th in the 200 in the same meet.