Training Thread - Toledo Marathon

Summarize, please. We don't care about your moving time, average pace, and elevation gain etc for every damn easy run.

noted, I will do that from now on

Monday

Felt good for both runs, The morning was outside and early before going to class, the later evening was also outside before class. Very windy out and my legs felt incredibly heavy from Sunday's run.

Tuesday

Both runs were indoors on the treadmill because of rain, I absolutely hate running in the rain and averaged 151-153 HR for both runs. Legs feeling good but had lots of soreness in between/near the upper thigh area. I'm assuming I was just feeling awkward from incorporating some stretching and mobility exercises recently

Wednesday

Wanted to do my speedwork on the treadmill but after listening to the forums, decided to opt out and go outside for it. The first two miles were down hill and everything else was on the sidewalk, simply manually lapping everything for the workout. Mostly ran into a headwind and felt rough the first two sets, the middle few felt great even when going into a headwind but afterwards my legs really began to fatigue. I later went out to jog with friends before hitting a bar and couldn't do any more than shuffle.

Thursday

Cold and wet run outside that had me feeling very very stiff, averaged a higher HR at 148 the whole time but surprising moved at a not horrible pace.

Friday

Morning run on the treadmill before I had to make an appointment, felt restrictive but my breathing was fine and I gradually increased the pace. No problems and later that evening ran, legs felt fresh and springy.

Saturday

Everything was a sheet of ice, I couldn't get any traction and decided to just enjoy running around with a light on and sight see on a trail. Later that evening went out for a better run, increased the pace with each mile and trying to control the pace manually instead of just running for the sake of running.

Sunday

Went in with the mentality that I would own the workout and felt like I did, breathing was eratic during the goal pace miles until I started controlling my body. Keeping a straight back really helped me breathe and I felt much better afterwards. I sweated too much though and lost 8lbs of water, failing to practice hydration. The point of the long run indoors was to gauge whether I can control these factors and I have much to learn about that. Felt fast, but slightly trashed afterwards

Overall, I felt like I was running with an awkward, for the sake of running purpose without a purpose for each and every run. I want to seriously recover on my easy days but always run in the morning so I can start my day off right. Otherwise, my 8:00 am just puts in me in a poor mood for the whole day and it can get really depressing. Never did a speed session outdoors before, so I'm pleasantly surprised with how that went and am used to the long runs. Stressful week though, I am anticipating taking a lower down week and dropping to about 70 miles or so. Hoping to feel fresher between each run instead of stiff in my upper thighs, I've noticed they cramp more often than they should. -note to self: take care and stretch more, give more selfcare-

This is not what he meant. Too many words. Just put distance and details about the real workouts. Maybe add some insight if there is something special to report.

SorryToSay2 wrote:

This is not what he meant. Too many words. Just put distance and details about the real workouts. Maybe add some insight if there is something special to report.

Exactly. Also sorry to derail the thread because I do hope it goes well. But it's not sustainable to write so much about every insignificant run. You're not going to want to do that week after week and no one will read it.

This would suffice:

Friday: AM: 7.7 on the treadmill (8:00). Tired. PM: 5 easy (7:31). Feeling better.

Thank you for showing me that, I wouldn't have known a good way to format and write this log. I'll be doing that for the next week and hoping it looks much better.

February 10 – 16 (Down Week)

77.9 Miles, 9 Hours 55 Minutes Ran, 591 Ft Elevation Gain

This week was awful for Ohio weather and my first time dealing with conferences, doing a lot of quick runs in the AM or in between class and conferences at planet fitness sadly.

Monday AM: 3 on the treadmill (8:00) Recovery, stupid sore from lifting. PM: 7 outside (7:44) Easy pace, still sore but felt I could drive legs better. Focus on form is helping.

Tuesday AM: 4 Easy (7:38) on treadmill, higher incline trying to work on keeping myself straight and running upwards. Tired of recent muggings and dead bodies found in local area. PM: 8.5 Easy (7:50) went into the run thinking it would be ‘sexy pace’, felt stronger than expected

Wednesday AM 4 Morning (7:27) Playing around with speed, PM 8 on Treadmill Workout 8x400s: 2 Warmup -> 8x400 (9.7mph) w/ 400 recovery (7.1 mph) -> 2 Cooldown. Done in between conferences, felt strong and quick with a good stride.

Thursday PM 10 (7:55) Treadmill. Naturally progressed to a faster and faster pace, didn’t feel too worn out from the previous day’s workout.

Friday AM: 9.1 (7:30) Felt good to not be indoors, too cold though at 6 F outside with windchill.

Saturday AM: 7.1 (7:47) Easy PM: 5 Progressive trying to keep HR below 156 (7:36, 7:27, 7:19, 7:07, 6:58), 1st half into a headwind of about 10-12mph and 2nd half back.

Sunday AM: 12 (7:23) Treadmill workout to test some nutrition and wear sweats to see sweat rate. Workout was 2 Mile warmup -> 6 x 1.25 miles (8.6mph) w/ 1:15 recovery (7.1mph) -> 1.6 mile cool down to round it to 12 miles. Felt strong and HR was 158-160 on the intervals. Sweated a lot, didn’t drink enough fluids though, learning day by day how to hydrate when extremely warm.

still trying to figure out proper formatting on the threads with bolding and stuff, I'm sorry if this all looks confusing and sloppy to anyone.

February 17 – 23

92.4 Miles, 9 Hours 55 Minutes Ran, 591 Ft Elevation Gain

Monday

AM: 7.2 (8:23), PM: 5 Miles (7:42)

Tuesday

AM: 4.1 (7:16) , PM: 8.1 (7:35) Strong 15-20 mph winds in the pm run, felt like I was being blown everywhere

Wednesday

PM: 12.5 Miles Workout, PM 2: 3.1 Miles (9:25)

Warm up: Jog 2 mi very easy--> 2 sets Run 1mi in 6:44 w/ Jog for 1:30-->Run 4 miles@ 8:19/m--> 2 sets Run 1mi in 6:44 w/ Jog for 1:30-->Cool down: Jog 2 mi very easy

Thursday

AM: 4.1 Miles (7:32), PM: 9 Miles (7:57)

Friday

AM: 8 Miles (7:37) Easy feeling, PM: 5 Miles (7:27) Steady run with fartleks at the very end and try to get some turnover

Saturday

3 Part Long Run = Part 1: 8 Miles (7:57) Then went to a kickoff run/group run -->Part 2: 7 Miles (7:43) Then went to finish off the last 3 by myself later that night since I had to run some errands --> Part 3: 3 Miles (6:55)

Sunday

AM: 8 miles easy (7:48) Windy on the way back, feeling rundown/burnt out and legs extremely fatigued

What's your previous racing and mileage history?

I'm digging what you're doing with tons of doubles and getting 90+ miles in. That's awesome. But I'm surprised to see so many runs between 7:20 and 7:30 pace. That's only 20-ish seconds per mile faster than your ultimate goal pace.

For me, those are great paces to hit during a steady run or two during the week. But usually I'm doing that in more base phases and not in conjunction with big workouts like you're hitting.

Anyways, just some thoughts. Especially since you ended the week saying you're feeling rundown, burned out, and extremely fatigued. It could be all those low to mid 7 minute miles. I would expect a 3:1X runner to log the vast majority of their runs at 8 minute pace or a tad slower.

Hope the recovery goes well and you feel good for the next big workout!

I don't really have much of a previous racing history. Because of a job where I've actually timed and monitored all the races, I was never able to actually participate. My history is for the last two years I've ran for an hour a day, since March of 2019 I've ran 70 MPW each week. Alot of my mornings are indoors on a treadmill because I shower afterwards and goto class or am worried about running in the area solo at 5:30 am. My first and last marathon was a 3:17, my average HR was 150 (optical HR from my garmin)

I never really did workouts before until this cycle, which I typically do on a straight stretch the best I can or on a treadmill also because I don't have access to a track. Otherwise I try and do all my longer afternoon runs outside.

I will slow down the miles this following week and see how I feel then, I need to be consciously slowing it down then but I'm okay with that. Whatever I need to do!

Thanks for your input! I hope Wednesday's next workout goes well too!

February 24 – March 1st

99.4 Miles, 12 Hours 48 Minutes Ran, 965 Ft Elevation Gain

Monday

AM: 5.1 (7:49), PM: 9 Miles (7:48)

Tuesday

AM: 4.1 (7:38) , PM: 10. (7:53) Weak pickups, felt sore from lifting and hitting a hill hard.

Wednesday

PM: 11 Miles Workout

2 Mile Warmup-->3x.5 mile (9.5,9.6,9.7 mph) w/ .25 rest (7.2 mph)-->30 minutes at 8.1 mph-->3x.5 mile (9.7,9.6,9.5 mph) w/ .25 rest (7.2mph)-->Cooldown to 11 miles

PM 2: 3.1 Miles (7:15) was solo for this club run, couldn’t see and was getting lost so I just played follow the leader

Thursday

AM: 9 Miles (7:52), PM: 5 Miles (8:23) Club run with random new friends, joined them on their 10 second pickups reaching upper 5 min pace. Felt really good

Friday

PM: 10 Miles (7:49) Wasn’t feeling well, did nasal breathing only for the first half and after the run got violently ill, sick. Think one of the kids I was teaching gave me a 24 hour bug

Easy feeling, PM: 5 Miles (7:27) Steady run with fartleks at the very end and try to get some turnover

Saturday

AM: 8 Miles (7:50), PM: 6 Miles (7:17) Random workout, was supposed to do 3×2 mile repeats with 2 minute rest during the long run but ended up doing part of it with 1 mile in between, Ran out of time to run after the second set. Splits were: 7:06, 6:57, 7:52, 6:56, 6:50, 8:00. Felt in control and never out of breath too much

Sunday

AM: 19 Miles (02:27:44)Long Run

March 2 – 8

100.5 Miles, 13 Hours 5 Minutes Ran, 2067 Ft Elevation Gain

Monday

AM: 4 Miles Recovering (8:20), PM: 8 Miles (8:37) Recovering

Tuesday

AM: 5 Miles (7:32) , PM: 9.1 Miles W/Strides (7:35) Strong 15-20 mph winds in the pm run, felt like I was being blown everywhere again;

Wednesday – Basically an unplanned 20 Mile Long Run spread throughout the day with morning runs, workouts, and club runs.

AM: 8 Miles (7:37)

PM:8 Mile Workout

Warm up: Jog 2 Mile Warmup--> 6 x .5 Mile Repeats (6:29, 6:25, 6:22, 6:22, 6:25, 6:29) W/.25 Miles Recovery (8:20) --> 1.5 Mile Cooldown

PM 2: 4 Miles (7:59)

Thursday

AM: 4 Miles (8:19), PM: 8 Miles (7:56)

Friday

AM: 5.4 Miles (7:24) PM: 9.1 Miles (7:53)

Saturday

Workout 1: 8.16 Miles

2 Mile Warmup-->4 Mile Goal Pace Effort (6:59,6:54,6:49,6:44)-->Remaining time cooldown

Workout 2: 9.4 Miles

2 Mile Warmup-->4 Mile Goal Pace Effort (6:55, 6:45, 7:00, 6:58)-->3.4 Mile Cool Down/Jog Home

Sunday

PM: 10.25 miles easy (8:06)

You are piling on the miles these last two weeks. Good work. How is everything feeling? Body holding up? Goal paces feeling more doable?

My body feels great. I've been battling a bit of a cold/ infection but I think that is more from the changing in weather and the kid's I've been teaching and not over training. Plus losing an hour of sleep with the time change and working the weekends at early hours recently has thrown my body off a bit.

I've been weight training twice a week with a kettle bell and I think that has kept my body realatively injury free. I find that unless I'm conciously trying to run faster than 8:00 min pace I'm naturally hovering around that pace for my easy runs. I also think running in the mornings first on the treadmill helps.

Goal paces are feeling easier, harder to get into but once I'm in it I kind of get in a groove. I've noticed I'm able to string sets together easier than I am all together but it has been getting easier and easier. I'm noticing its easier to do off the treadmill than it is on which makes me confident when I use it for my speed sessions.

I've been struggling with digestive issues and food/calories recently. Just trying to get in enough, and be cheap at the same time. I've tracked recently and am only reaching about 3,000 a day which isn't enough. But I'm a pretty broke college kid who lives off of rice, eggs, frozen vegetables, etc. Any suggestions on food and calories? Taking fluids and nutrition while running on the treadmill doesn't seem to be a problem but off of that while on the streets running around Columbus has proven to be a challenge for me.

I've been incorporating more:

Whole Eggs

Peanut butter

Ground oats/shakes

Basically anything I can get my hands on until my fridge is empty.

March 9 – 15

89.1 Miles, 11 Hours 22 Minutes Ran, 758 Ft Elevation Gain

This week was a cluster, with the university moving people out with a 48 hour notice, depression hitting hard, eating junk food and trying to use anything in my fridge before going home because I don't want to waste the food going bad, etc. It was a rough week of training. I'm now getting back to a good, clean, healthy diet but this week was the week from hell and I could feel it in the way my body was holding weight, water, and inflamation.

2 Weight lifting sessions, 2 Solid Workouts, Lots of easy and random mileage in between. I'm back home now and with nothing to do because of the virus, I think I'll continue following my training plan from Run Coach but increasing the mileage as GCM hasn't been canceled yet. . . but it looks likely.

Monday

AM: 4.2 Miles (7:32), PM: 8 Miles (7:37)

Tuesday

AM: 4.6 Miles (8:17) , PM: 9 Miles (7:31)

Wednesday

AM: 4 Miles (7:34) PM: 12.5 Miles Workout, PM 2: 3.1 Miles (9:25)

Warm up: Jog 2 mi easy--> 3 sets Run 1mi @ goal pace (6:59, 6:51, 6:57) w/ Jog for 1:00 (8:07, 8:26, 8:08)-->Run home 2.89 miles

Thursday

AM: 4 Miles (8:03), PM: 8 Miles (7:34)

Friday

AM: 3 Miles (7:30) Easy feeling, PM: 9 Miles (7:47)

Saturday

AM: 6.6 Miles (7:31) PM: 4 Miles (7:53)

Sunday

AM Long Run Workout: 13.1 Miles (7:25)

3 Mile Warmup -->6x1 Mile @ 6:44-6:39 W/ 1:30 Jog Between-->Cooldown to 13.1

With GCM being canceled, I am trying to transfer and sell my deferred 2021 bib and race entry. I’m unable to participate. However, I will be running a time trial on April 19th and have the option to be paced by a good friend and 2:30s marathoner.

If anybody has any suggestion or comment on how to restructure the training accordingly to the new date please chime in. I’ve got no access to a treadmill, gym, or track sadly.

My last workout was a random run with 5 miles of Marathon Pace and some strides afterwards. Everything is kind of day-to-day at the moment.

I need structure and something to go off of moving forward until April 19th. The TT will be on a local out and back 13.1 stretch with 55ft of elevation gain for each loop. Stupidly flat.

March 16 – 22

90.3 Miles, 11 Hours 56 Minutes Ran, 249 Ft Elevation Gain

Another Cluster F of a week, Ohio is rough right now and so is life. 3 Weight lifting sessions, 2 Solid Workouts and a long run, Lots of easy and random mileage in between again. Coronavirus has me not being able to touch a treadmill, I've been taking all mileage day-by-day because of it. Glad I can maintain mileage and not worry about being injured still. Lots of E-Books, it will be interesting to look back at this training log after my T.T. in April for the marathon. anybody got predictions?

GCM is officially a virtual race now, that sucks. Refused to give me my refund. . .

Monday

AM: 5 Miles (7:57), PM: 9 Miles (8:05)

Tuesday

AM: 10 Miles (7:57) , PM: 5 Mile Workout (6:59)

Goal Pace Workout for 5 Miles: No warmup --> 5 Miles (7:07, 6:59, 7:00, 7:06, 6:44); not once out of breath and sang K-pop the whole time --> No cooldown

Wednesday

AM: 7 Miles (8:28) PM: 5 Miles (7:49)

Thursday

AM: 6.1 Miles (7:34), PM: 5 Miles (8:01)

Friday

NOON Workout 11 Miles: No Warmup --> 1 Hour 20 Minute 'Tempo' according to RunCoach pace (7:52, 7:36, 7:34, 7:33, 7:34, 7:34, 7:26, 7:25, 7:22, 7:21, 4:39) --> Cooldown to 11 Miles (7:41 pace)

Saturday

AM: 8 Miles (8:42), PM: 4 Miles (7:40)

Sunday Long Run: 15. Miles (7:59) No workout inside this long run, took it easy and fun.

March 23 – 29

85.2 Miles, 11 Hours Ran, 1024 Ft Elevation Gain

Another week of 2 workouts and 2-3 weight training sessions. Definitely felt sore and bad weather had me move my long run to Monday instead of on Sunday; successfully completed a 20 miler with 2 granola bars for 180 calories because I didn't expect to do it. No wall, all at conversational easy pace and low HR.

Monday

AM: 8 Miles (7:31), PM: 2 Miles (8:23)

Tuesday

AM: 10 Miles (8:01) , PM: 4 Miles (7:01)

Wednesday

AM: 7.2 Miles (8:17) PM: 7 Miles Workout – Felt insanely strong and good during this, in control of my body and pace. Harder breathing towards the end, can’t tell if it was due to the oddly warm weather for Ohio or the humidity.

Warm up: 1 mi easy--> 4 sets Run 1mi around (6:34, 6:34, 6:37, 6:31) w/ Jog for 1:30 (7:54, 8:03, 8:03, 7:55)--> Run back til 7 miles done

Thursday

PM: 9.1 Miles (7:44)

Friday

AM: 10.25 Miles Workout (7:30) Talked the whole time, didn’t expect this workout to go as well as it did. Average HR was in the 157 – low 160s. About marathon HR.

PM: 4 Miles Recovery (8:41)

10.25 Miles @ Goal Marathon Pace; No Warmup or Cooldown – 7:20, 7:06, 7:04, 7:02, 7:08, 6:54, 6:54, 6:56, 6:59, 6:57, 7:01)

Saturday

AM: 8 Miles (8:06) PM: 4 Miles (7:55)

Sunday

AM: 8 Miles (7:43) PM: 3.4 Miles (8:39) – PM run into 20-30 mph winds, not fun. Was blown away and everywhere.

March 30 – April 5

91.2 Miles, 11 Hours 53 Minutes Ran, 873 Ft Elevation Gain

Picked up a part time job which has really messed with my motivation and general running routine. Trying to maintain doubles and rework my whole system of running in the evening. Trying to get back to my apartment and get my headlight but quarantine has really messed with being able to travel recently with my parents and family. Have had horrible GI issues since Thursday, can’t tell if it’s diet or getting sick. Please don’t be Covid-19.

Monday

AM Long Run: 20.1 Miles (8:06) Only had two great value chewy granola bars on me, no bonking or wall. No GI issues. 90 Calories each, one at mile 10 and another at mile 16.

Tuesday

AM: 7 Miles (7:36)

PM: 4 Miles (8:20)

Wednesday

AM Workout: 9 Miles (7:23) Unplanned Progressive Run (7:43, 7:40, 7:38, 7:29, 7:33, 7:24, 7:11, 7:06, 6:43) Lifted legs/lower body afterwards

PM: 3 Miles (8:08)

Thursday

AM: 10 Miles (7:52) Major GI issues after coffee and oatmeal

PM: 4.75 Miles (7:07) Was upset during this run, didn’t get a job offer. Owning up to the fact I’m simply not qualified but I can still be disappointed. Did 5 x 30 Second pickups (5:32, 6:02, 6:07, 5:44, 6:29) at the end with 1 Minute recovery float (7:41, 6:51, 7:04, 7:44, 7:26)

Friday

AM: 8 Miles (7:28)

Saturday

AM: 13.1 Miles (7:53) Again, horrible GI issues. Died after the first 10km.

Sunday

AM Workout: 9.06 Miles (7:52) Did some goal pace play, point of the workout was 3 easy with 1 at goal pace (2 sets) with 1 back to my car. Just to keep a feel for the pace and HR effort (8:16, 8:17, 8:18, 6:52, 8:05, 8:18, 8:13, 6:45, 7:47) In full control of this workout. Felt great and lifted upper body afterwards

PM: 3.2 Miles (8:28)