Fridge Raider: Inside the Diet of Ultra-Marathoner Jim Walmsley

Please make it stop.

Sounds pretty unhealthy to me.

But hey, he is young and he can do whatever he wants.

In a couple of years this will backfire.

Eat more Tofu wrote:

Sounds pretty unhealthy to me.

But hey, he is young and he can do whatever he wants.

In a couple of years this will backfire.

What's unhealthy about it? Sounds fine to me. Are you vegan or something?

Wow...he looks just like Michael Wardian!

zzzz wrote:

Eat more Tofu wrote:

Sounds pretty unhealthy to me.

But hey, he is young and he can do whatever he wants.

In a couple of years this will backfire.

What's unhealthy about it? Sounds fine to me. Are you vegan or something?

Pizza, beer, yogurt, granola and ice cream are what I read. All pretty bad. bad fats and lots of carbs, sugar and alcohol, sugar, sugar and bad fats, sugar.

Pizza, yogurt, and some granolas can work in moderation for people. and occasional indulgences. It does not sound like the foundation of a healthy diet.

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zzzz wrote:

Eat more Tofu wrote:

Sounds pretty unhealthy to me.

But hey, he is young and he can do whatever he wants.

In a couple of years this will backfire.

What's unhealthy about it? Sounds fine to me. Are you vegan or something?

Pizza, beer, yogurt, granola and ice cream are what I read. All pretty bad. bad fats and lots of carbs, sugar and alcohol, sugar, sugar and bad fats, sugar.

Pizza, yogurt, and some granolas can work in moderation for people. and occasional indulgences. It does not sound like the foundation of a healthy diet.[/quote]

Your opinion. There's no food that everyone agrees is good. There are people that think meat is bad (Canaday), vegetables are bad (YMMV), eggplants/beans are bad, fruits are bad, etc.

I think carbs, sugars, and fats are great and necessary for runners that run a lot (a category that includes me). It's hard to get enough calories otherwise. I personally thrive on yogurt and ice cream (bought five 1.5 pt. cartons last week, and about half done already). I think of pizza as healthy, especially homemade and vegetarian. Granola bad? It's oats made portable. I personally don't drink alcohol unless it's free, but don't think a drink a night is unhealthy.

Pretty sure sage doesn’t think meat is nutritionally bad, he doesn’t eat it for other reasons.

Hard to take articles like this seriously as they obviously highlight the junk food he consumes without really focusing on his complete diet. Walmsley probably needs a lot of calories per day so it probably doesn’t matter if a fifth is coming from pizza and different types of pizza can vary drastically in nutritional value anyway.

zzzz wrote:

Your opinion. There's no food that everyone agrees is good. There are people that think meat is bad (Canaday), vegetables are bad (YMMV), eggplants/beans are bad, fruits are bad, etc.

I think carbs, sugars, and fats are great and necessary for runners that run a lot (a category that includes me). It's hard to get enough calories otherwise. I personally thrive on yogurt and ice cream (bought five 1.5 pt. cartons last week, and about half done already). I think of pizza as healthy, especially homemade and vegetarian. Granola bad? It's oats made portable. I personally don't drink alcohol unless it's free, but don't think a drink a night is unhealthy.

I wish people would get more educated about food. With half of the population obese and the rest pretty much overweight.

Carbs and sugars and fats can be good if they come from vegetables and fruit. But most people get them from processed food. And processed food is the killer. On top of it people are too meat focused. I don't think you have to cut out all the meat to be healthy but less is probably better for a lot of people.

The biggest problem is that bad food doesn't hurt you much if you are young. But eventually it will catch up to you. So if you are young and fast you better start thinking about what you eat and why you eat it now and change it, so that you can be old and fast as well.

Eat more Tofu wrote:

I wish people would get more educated about food. With half of the population obese and the rest pretty much overweight.

Carbs and sugars and fats can be good if they come from vegetables and fruit. But most people get them from processed food. And processed food is the killer. On top of it people are too meat focused. I don't think you have to cut out all the meat to be healthy but less is probably better for a lot of people.

The biggest problem is that bad food doesn't hurt you much if you are young. But eventually it will catch up to you. So if you are young and fast you better start thinking about what you eat and why you eat it now and change it, so that you can be old and fast as well.

From this article,, it appears that Walmsley is getting most of his calories from nutritious sources. If prepared properly with the right ingredients, the wood fired pizza he is noming could fit perfectly in an endurance athlete's diet. He's not eating at Pizza Hut, and the article mentions that he avoids soda and other refined sugars.

It's too bad the article doesn't place more emphasis on the fact that although Walmsley eats a lot, he's getting his carbs from nutritional sources. It seems to imply that if you're an endurance athlete, you can go crazy at the Pizza Hut and Golden Corral buffets.

Who is Walmsley?

zzzz wrote:

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zzzz wrote:

What's unhealthy about it? Sounds fine to me. Are you vegan or something?

Pizza, beer, yogurt, granola and ice cream are what I read. All pretty bad. bad fats and lots of carbs, sugar and alcohol, sugar, sugar and bad fats, sugar.

Pizza, yogurt, and some granolas can work in moderation for people. and occasional indulgences. It does not sound like the foundation of a healthy diet.

Your opinion. There's no food that everyone agrees is good. There are people that think meat is bad (Canaday), vegetables are bad (YMMV), eggplants/beans are bad, fruits are bad, etc.

I think carbs, sugars, and fats are great and necessary for runners that run a lot (a category that includes me). It's hard to get enough calories otherwise. I personally thrive on yogurt and ice cream (bought five 1.5 pt. cartons last week, and about half done already). I think of pizza as healthy, especially homemade and vegetarian. Granola bad? It's oats made portable. I personally don't drink alcohol unless it's free, but don't think a drink a night is unhealthy.[/quote]

I'm guessing you're younger than 40.

RSAR wrote:

I'm guessing you're younger than 40.

ZZZZ is probably in his early 20ies on the straight path to alcoholism, diabetes and obesity.

Eat more Tofu wrote:

Carbs and sugars and fats can be good if they come from vegetables and fruit. But most people get them from processed food. And processed food is the killer.

Processed food aren't inherently bad for you. A food being "processed" doesn't make it unhealthy.

Baking a food is processing it. Freezing something is processing it. Dried foods are processed.

Most runners and coaches agree that there is a huge genetic component to aspects like biomechanical durability, responsiveness to training, etc.. I would offer up that for the longer distances, there is an "iron gut" genetic/epigenetic component (which I did/do not possess) where an athlete can literally be a human garbage disposal and seemingly thrive or at least not suffer unduly. It certainly helps to be relatively young (mid-30s or younger), and to run very high mileage. Bill Rodgers was a famous example of this. There is also a sub-component of runners that can tolerate a high percentage of plants v. animal foods (Sage being an obvious case of this). If you are a 40+ athlete, running under 80-100 miles/week, you probably should not use athletes like Walmsley as an exemplar, any more than a sprinter should use Usain's Chicken McNugget diet to achieve top-level results. Top athletes are outliers, not like the rest of us, or we would be them.

Notorious junk-food junkie Karl Meltzer, the speedgoat, is still winning 100s in his 50s.

What's so bad about pizza? Meat, cheese, vegs, oil, bread. Put it in a different form and it seems okay. Had pizza last night. We make it about once a week. It's been years since I've had any pizza other than homemade pizza with organic, whole-grain, locally-sourced hoity toity ingredients, but even a pizza place pizza isn't that bad.

Eat more Tofu wrote:

RSAR wrote:

I'm guessing you're younger than 40.

ZZZZ is probably in his early 20ies on the straight path to alcoholism, diabetes and obesity.

I’m guessing you have a dad bod and/or man boobs.

Someone forced you to click on this discussion?

You'll be okay, don't worry.

I thought it was interesting to point out high-performing runners who don't obsess over every single morsel of food that goes in their mouths. Lord knows there are enough of those.

DietBacon wrote:

Eat more Tofu wrote:

Carbs and sugars and fats can be good if they come from vegetables and fruit. But most people get them from processed food. And processed food is the killer.

Processed food aren't inherently bad for you. A food being "processed" doesn't make it unhealthy.

Baking a food is processing it. Freezing something is processing it. Dried foods are processed.

Of course every form of cooking is processing too.

But what I mean are processed food options from the food industry. They are not good for you in the long run. It's better if you cook for yourself.