Disregarding reaction times, looks like Yohan Blake is the Unofficial WR holder in the 200 meter dash.

Reaction times aren't a test of speed.

based on your previous posts, you're not so good with numbers....

Do you seriously think that in the 9 years since Blake ran 19.26, that nobody has come to this realization? There was plenty of articles covering the fact that he has a really slow reaction time in that race.

Here is an article about it written by somebody far more eloquent than you:

http://speedendurance.com/2012/01/16/yohan-blake-200-meter-splits-why-blake-will-beat-bolt/

Now there is no need for you to post whatever drivel you had as a follow up to your original post.

matt_london_413 wrote:

So Bolt is no longer the record holder in this event.

Thats not how that works lmao

Blake ran a fantastic race.

It is still the second best 200m of all time. Do not change the rules of the event.

What are you talking about? Blake is a convicted doper. None of his times count.

I still have a hard time believing he actually ran that fast. He ran a 19.26 with a .269 reaction time. So a 19.14 with a normal reaction for an elite sprinter. Well under Bolt's WR of 19.19.

His 100 best that year was 9.82. Unless he was seriously under performing, he should have run around a quarter second faster than that. Just doesn't seem possible.

He ran much faster in the 100 in 2012 and didn't come close to his PR in the 200. Even on the same track he only managed a 19.54. Weird

TAA wrote:

I still have a hard time believing he actually ran that fast. He ran a 19.26 with a .269 reaction time. So a 19.14 with a normal reaction for an elite sprinter. Well under Bolt's WR of 19.19.

His 100 best that year was 9.82. Unless he was seriously under performing, he should have run around a quarter second faster than that. Just doesn't seem possible.

He ran much faster in the 100 in 2012 and didn't come close to his PR in the 200. Even on the same track he only managed a 19.54. Weird

That track is really fast. He turned 21 that year and grew so much his shoulders had stretch marks (...)

He also had insane talent. He won the WC in 2011 after Bolt false started as the youngest ever to win.

He ran 19.44 at the Olympic final in 2012 and then 9.69 into a headwind for the second best 100m in history.

I think the last two times show he had a bad / off peak race at Brussels in 2012, considering his 19.44 at the Olympics and 9.69 (good for a WR with a max tailwind). In a good race, I think you could expect at least 19.2X in the 2012 race at the same track.

Did he have 3D shoulders and the steroid glow that Mr. London describes in his weird posts?

Disregarding gravity, I am the world record holder in the high jump. And to be honest, it feels amazing.

The wind conversion from here:

https://jmureika.lmu.build/track/wind/200altwind.html

gives Bolt 19.18 and Blake 19.19 with equal reaction times, not to mention the extra advantage from Blake running a wider turn.

Though, wind readings for 200m can vary. You do not know how it read on the bend or how consistently it blew.

Precisely, 19.175 and 19.182. Bolt looks right on 19.19 (maybe 19.191), Blake at best has 0.005 off 19.26, still giving him a worse conversion(19.176 vs 19.177) before taking into account the track.

<3# wrote:

The wind conversion from here:

https://jmureika.lmu.build/track/wind/200altwind.html

gives Bolt 19.18 and Blake 19.19 with equal reaction times, not to mention the extra advantage from Blake running a wider turn.

Though, wind readings for 200m can vary. You do not know how it read on the bend or how consistently it blew.

Good point but here's the thing with wind readings.

Wind is not a constant.

They only have wind reading devices at like 1 point on the track or maybe 2.

Unless they had wind reading devices at 1 foot increments along the track right next to the runners. For instance in each lane. Then we don't know for sure what the wind was.

There could have been a gust of wind at the midway point of the track.

So right now let's not get into the wind aspect of it.

Let's just focus in on the fact that he would have ran 19.13 if he had the same exact reation time that Bolt had.

Yeah the fact that he ran it in lane 7 on a bigger track also helped.

What this tells us is this. Lane 7 or 8 or 9 or whatever the outside lanes are , are always going to be the best lanes to run a 200 in.

The runners are running so fast that on the inside lanes they are actually at a disadvantage.

So what this means is this. We can no longer have races against each other.

Everyone should have a chance to run in the most advantageous lane such as lane 7 or 8 or 9.

Therefore each 200 meter race needs to be just 1 person racing in lane 7 or 8 or 9 and racing against the clock. That's it.

It will take longer to hold all track meets but it's the only way to give everyone a fair chance at running in lane 7 or 8 or 9.

It's not right that the inside people in lane 1 have to fight against centrifugal force to stay in their lane and slow down because they are picked to have the worst lane. Everyone running in lane 1 in a 200 meter race is going to run .28 of a second slower.

They could have everyone line up at lane 7 that is racing the 200 that day ... And they could get 1 race off every 2 mins if they do it right.

For example. Racer number 1 races the 200. Racer number 2 is right behind them and ready to get into the starting blocks on lane 7,8, or 9.

Racer number 2 races the 200. Racer number 3 is right behind them ready to get into the starting blocks and race the 200 in lane 7,8, or 9.

And then so on and then so on.... Until every single 200 meter dash runner has raced the 200 that day in lane 7,8 or 9.

It's the only way to give everyone a legit chance at running their absolute peak time that day.

What does everyone think about this? Is this a good idea?

No, this is a bad idea

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we’re done here wrote:

olympic wrote:

No, this is a bad idea

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I think this idea needs to be implemented immediately .... It's the only way to be sure that every athlete hits absolute peak times at any given race.

We can take this concept and apply it to the 400 meter race, the 300 meter dash, all 4 by 100 relays, the 4by400 meter relay, the 800, the mile, the 1500... etc.

Any race that involves a disadvantage because of lane assignment needs to be corrected.

Everyone should have a fair chance.

It's going to take alot longer to conduct all track meets but it's the only way to be sure.

Why are you trying to find reasons to praise a guy for having a terrible start? Sprinters spend like 90% of their time practicing starts and baton passes instead of actually training. It sickens me that the pros still cannot perform either of these activities any better than random middle school kids.

Shaq would be GOAT if he could shoot free throws decently. But he couldn’t. Who cares?

matt how do you make races fair to account for genetic differences? shouldn't you only be allowed to race if your genome is sequenced exactly as the other competitors in the race???

All this is irrelevant. I despise filthy, cheating dopers like these. Lowest form of life. I have more respect for a dung beetle.